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Demolition Man, same EAN code different version
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantblaspheria
Registered: December 8, 2007
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I just bought the dvd "Demolition Man" with EAN code 7321931129855, but the one that pops up from the database is not the one I have. This is an "Action Collection" version, with a different front and back. Also the regions are different (instead of region 2,4 it only is 2). My question is, how can I put the version I have into the database without overwriting the other one?
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Registered: April 14, 2007
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Is it in the same locality?

If so, you'll need to use the Disc ID.
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantblaspheria
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Yes it is. Mmm, ok well I will do that than. Thanks

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Oh no, that REALLY doesn't help Now the database recognizes it as "Wesley Snipe's triple Future", which is completely differend
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorMithi
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Now the database recognizes it as "Wesley Snipe's triple Future", which is completely differend

Which database?

I just added the EAN and got "Demolition Man" for 3 Localities:
UK - looks like a zombie of the Netherlands locality, crappy coverscans and dutch overview.
Netherlands - looks fine to me, see the wishlist of
Belgium - similar cover and backcover, just everything in french.

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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantjmbox
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The only profiles I can see with "Wesley Snipes" in the title are in the localities of Sweden, New Zealand and Portugal.

Uncheck the "Download profile from Invelos" and you should be able to create a unique disc id/locality profile. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong)

Looking at some of the profiles. There are 2 Belgium ones. "Action Collection" under 7321950129850 and another under 7321931129855 but the EAN in the cover image is 7321950129850!
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantblaspheria
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@Mithi, The database of Invelos (when I do a disc scan)

The Dutch version you refer to is indeed the one I see too. But the dvd I have here in my hands has got a red cover (from the Action Collection series) is a keepcase instead of a snapper and is only region 2. So it's definately a different version with the same EAN code

@jmbox, I understand that when I uncheck the "download profile from Invelos" I can make my own version, but.. I want to synchronise it with my online collection. Also it is a possibility that other people have this version too, and now looking at the wrong one.

My Action Collection dvd really has the EAN code 7321931129855 printed on the back, and not 7321950129850
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the red one, Action Collection, ain't that a re-issue
Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions.
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@Mithi, The database of Invelos (when I do a disc scan)

Just checking, not that you are still on v2.4 or something worse ... 
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But the dvd I have here in my hands has got a red cover (from the Action Collection series) is a keepcase instead of a snapper and is only region 2.

Snapper/Keepcase ... say no more.
Don't know for sure, but my educated guess would be: The snapper in the database ist he original release. You have a rerelease in a keepcase, the (expletive deleted) DVD distributor reused the EAN and we are in trouble.
Contribution rules: "All information in the main DVD Profiler database is to be for the Original Release version of the disc; do not contribute any information that is specific to a re-release."
Same/similar goes for Disc-IDs if that one is already taken.

So all you can do is keep your changes local. As for the onlinelist: don't worry too much, everything but the covers comes from your DVD Profiler, so change the dvd profile to your liking and simply upload the list.
Just make a note or something that this profile is never to be contributed.

cya, Mithi
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantblaspheria
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Ok, that's clear. I will leave it this way then. (btw I'm using the latest version of the Invelos DB  ) So actually the company screwed up by reusing the same EAN code. Thanks for clearing it up!
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Registered: May 22, 2007
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Just make a note or something that this profile is never to be contributed.


if you right click on the contribute icon (the hand holding a dvd) on the general info tab you get to options, contribute and never contribute. The icon is greyed out if no changes are made. I just checked and if you click never contribute it greys out the icon. I then tried to contribute it, and while it did seem to upload. It seemed to be as a new contribution, though I know the profile was one I downloaded by upc (though it didn't match my title). Didn't see anything in the help about it so probably need Ken to expand on exactly what never contribute does, unless someone else knows more.

in regards to the company 'screwing up' I found this info:
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Are there specific rules for assigning product numbers?
Every unique item requires an individual item number. GS1 recommends that companies do not put logic into their number assignment, but rather use serial numbers to guarantee uniqueness.


Can I reuse a UPC number?
Aside from assigning company prefixes, the GS1 creates the standards for item and logistical bar coding. The EAN/UCC General Specification covers all the rules for allocating numbers. Access to this standard is included with your GS1 US membership.

taken from here

mind you, i don't have a copy of the General Specification, but from this my guess is if the company isn't considering this a 'unique' item that they are within the rules to reassign the number, it just makes it a pain for us and wanting to keep a unique profile for the re-release.

-Agrare
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