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Sliders and the Bonus Episodes question |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,245 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't own this set, but I was wondering exactly where these bonus episodes are listed.
Are they listed along with the other Sliders episodes or are they listed under Special Features? |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CubbyUps: Quote:
I don't own this set, but I was wondering exactly where these bonus episodes are listed.
Are they listed along with the other Sliders episodes or are they listed under Special Features? Not listed at all. It should be noted, however, that the Sliders episodes are not listed either. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | All I do with bonus episodes is mention them in Other Features. | | | | Pete |
| | Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Posts: 663 |
| | Posted: | | | | It's not listed on the packaging, but the episodes are on Disc 4 under "Bonus." Here is a screen capture of the menu:  | | | We're on a mission from God.
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 951 |
| | Posted: | | | | Eagle,
Right now I'm the only one who disagrees with your removal of data of these episodes. Because of the two reasons you provide.
First they are not Sliders episodes and your second reason is that they appear under the menu labeled "Bonus". Giving the one sentence from the Cast and Crew rules.
"Do not list actors and crew who appear only in special features, or whose scenes were deleted from the main feature, even if they appear in special features."
Your First reason for the removal is that they are not Sliders episodes, I totally don't agree with simply we profile DVDs and take the cast and crew as credited. It shouldn't matter what TV series they come from and there is nothing in the rules that support that reason (That I can find).
Second reason I can somewhat see but, still have an issue with because that was not what that part of the rule was originally intended for. It was because we had users adding cast members with the "(scenes deleted)" appended to their role.
But, if the community agrees because these fall under a menu labeled "Bonus" they should be removed. I don't have issue other than your going to open up a can of worms since we have a number of TV series that already include Bonus TV episodes including those from the same series. Including some movie releases that have listed under "Bonus" or "Special Features" menu which also include TV episodes and additional feature films. Which means all of these profiles will also need to have the cast and crews removed because of the menu placement. | | | Are you local?
This is a local shop the strangers you would bring would not understand us, our customs, our local ways. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Tracer: Quote:
Eagle,
Right now I'm the only one who disagrees with your removal of data of these episodes. Because of the two reasons you provide.
First they are not Sliders episodes and your second reason is that they appear under the menu labeled "Bonus". Giving the one sentence from the Cast and Crew rules.
"Do not list actors and crew who appear only in special features, or whose scenes were deleted from the main feature, even if they appear in special features."
Your First reason for the removal is that they are not Sliders episodes, I totally don't agree with simply we profile DVDs and take the cast and crew as credited. It shouldn't matter what TV series they come from and there is nothing in the rules that support that reason (That I can find). Yes, we profile DVDs, but we profile them by 'title'. And yes, there is something in the rules to support that. While TV series aren't mentioned, the 'Bonus Feature Films' rule should still apply. Quote:
Second reason I can somewhat see but, still have an issue with because that was not what that part of the rule was originally intended for. It was because we had users adding cast members with the "(scenes deleted)" appended to their role.
But, if the community agrees because these fall under a menu labeled "Bonus" they should be removed. I don't have issue other than your going to open up a can of worms since we have a number of TV series that already include Bonus TV episodes including those from the same series. Including some movie releases that have listed under "Bonus" or "Special Features" menu which also include TV episodes and additional feature films. Which means all of these profiles will also need to have the cast and crews removed because of the menu placement. This 'can of worms' has already been opened. As you suggest in your 'no' vote, these fall under the 'Bonus Feature Films' rule. As such, they are not included in the profile for the main feature, or in this case series, they get their own profile. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 951 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
This 'can of worms' has already been opened. As you suggest in your 'no' vote, these fall under the 'Bonus Feature Films' rule. As such, they are not included in the profile for the main feature, or in this case series, they get their own profile. However Ken has also stated that he wants all cast and crew in the main profile as well as the child profiles for TV series. | | | Are you local?
This is a local shop the strangers you would bring would not understand us, our customs, our local ways. |
| | Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Posts: 663 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Tracer: Quote:
First they are not Sliders episodes and your second reason is that they appear under the menu labeled "Bonus". Giving the one sentence from the Cast and Crew rules.
"Do not list actors and crew who appear only in special features, or whose scenes were deleted from the main feature, even if they appear in special features."
Your First reason for the removal is that they are not Sliders episodes, I totally don't agree with simply we profile DVDs and take the cast and crew as credited. It shouldn't matter what TV series they come from and there is nothing in the rules that support that reason (That I can find).
The rule you mentioned, says special features shouldn't be credited with either a cast or crew listing, which is why I removed it. The screen capture that I provided clearly shows that it is under the Bonus menu, which if I recall is another name for special features, hence the reason the Gag Reel is there. The shows are also already mentioned in the "Other" catagory under the Special Features tab in profiler. Quote:
I don't have issue other than your going to open up a can of worms since we have a number of TV series that already include Bonus TV episodes including those from the same series. Including some movie releases that have listed under "Bonus" or "Special Features" menu which also include TV episodes and additional feature films. Which means all of these profiles will also need to have the cast and crews removed because of the menu placement. Well if they are under a Special Feature or Bonus option in the menu of the DVD, then the credits shouldn't be listed and if they are, they need to be removed. Just the titles of either the bonus episodes or movies, should be listed under the "Other Features." And like Unicus says, "'Bonus Feature Films' rule should still apply." | | | We're on a mission from God.
| | | | Last edited: by Mike D. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Tracer: Quote:
Quoting Unicus69:
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This 'can of worms' has already been opened. As you suggest in your 'no' vote, these fall under the 'Bonus Feature Films' rule. As such, they are not included in the profile for the main feature, or in this case series, they get their own profile.
However Ken has also stated that he wants all cast and crew in the main profile as well as the child profiles for TV series. Yes, but for that series. He said nothing about 'bonus' features. Bonus Feature Films, which I would apply to bonus episodes as well, get their own profiles. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 951 |
| | Posted: | | | | We didn't have the Bonus Feature film rule back when he came out with his statement to have the info in both profiles and let the users decide what the wanted to keep locally.
As we all know DVD manufactures keep coming up with new ways to present material on a DVD. | | | Are you local?
This is a local shop the strangers you would bring would not understand us, our customs, our local ways. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Tracer: Quote:
We didn't have the Bonus Feature film rule back when he came out with his statement to have the info in both profiles and let the users decide what the wanted to keep locally.
As we all know DVD manufactures keep coming up with new ways to present material on a DVD. You are correct and, if I am being honest, I probably would have given a different answer back then. Under the current rules, however, I see them as bonus features. That is not to say that I don't see where you are coming from, I do see what you are saying. I just don't happen to agree. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have to agree with Unicus... this is under bonus features.. as such the rules state not to use cast/crew for bonus features. | | | | Pete |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | This is one of those areas where the program has evolved (cast dividers) and TV series on DVD have evolved (Dexter has 2 episodes of Brotherhood and web access to an episode of The Tudors) ahead of the rules. It would be nice to get a rules update so we could share this data with each other rather than using the rules to prevent us from doing what the database is designed to do (share the load, share data). | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan |
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