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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 453 |
| | Posted: | | | | Im doing an audit on some titles and noticed in Oceans Eleven all the poker players at the beggining are all uncredited, so I watched the credits and they are not there.
My question is why? They are clearly in the movie ,how come their not credited? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | You would have to ask the filmmaker's that one. But i suspect it's like any other movie, they are called extras. If you are famiuliar with a James Garner film "Tank", I was an extra in the crowd scene at the end of that movie, there were some three hundred of us as I recall, we were paid a small sum and none of us were credited.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | What Skip said.
To expand a little, here in the US, this is all governed by the Screen Actors Guild. SAG members, which would be the first 12 extras, have the option whether or not they want to be credited. Non-SAG members, which would be the bulk of the extras, usually do not have a choice and almost never get credit. The obvious exceptions are friends and relatives of the 'powers that be' for that particular film.
Juat as an FYI, SAG extras get $125 for the first 8 hours of work while non-sag members only get $40. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 413 |
| | Posted: | | | | Don Cheadle also performed in this movie as one of the eleven. And he is not credited.
I believe Mike is referring to Topfer Grace, Shane West, Joshua Jackson etc. Aren't those also called as cameo appearances? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | No they are called (uncredited). When Ocean's Eleven was filmed no one knew who Topher Grace was. It was in fact was one of his very first appearances On Screen, if not the very first.
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
No they are called (uncredited). When Ocean's Eleven was filmed no one knew who Topher Grace was. It was in fact was one of his very first appearances On Screen, if not the very first.
Skip I am not sure how you can say that. While this was one of his first 'Big Screen' appearances, Topher was quite popular and well known from his hit show, "That '70s Show", which began in August of 1998. In this case, Jykke is correct, these were cameos...though we call the 'uncredited' for profiler purposes. It has been a while since I had seen this movie so I had forgotten that the poker scene involved 'named' actors. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| | Posted: | | | | I recognized them. All the poker players were playing themselves, that was the joke. As i recall they were all trying to learn poker from Brad Pitt's character and pretty much sucked at it.
Definitely Uncredited. Wish all uncredited were this easy to ID. | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| Registered: April 14, 2007 | | Posts: 433 |
| | Posted: | | | | Actors will take uncredited cameos in films, just because they are friends with the star or director. I was watching Live Free or Die Hard and saw Cedric the Entertainer in the background of a scene when Bruxe Willis and Justin Long exit a police station. He doesn't have a speaking part, he's just standing there looking upset and frustrated, but it's him. I wouldn't add him to the Cast list as uncredited though, myself. | | | | Chris |
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| Registered: May 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,033 |
| | Posted: | | | | just a quick thought I had, and hope I'm not stirring up a hornets nest, but what about adding a check box for cameo similar to the voice and uncredited.
this way if you are looking at movies that an actor appears in you know that in xyz movie they just had a cameo.
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 585 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting cmaeditor: Quote:
Actors will take uncredited cameos in films, just because they are friends with the star or director. Another big one that left me scratching my head was Owen Wilson's part in Night at the Museum. | | | "Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men" - Douglas Bader
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Agrare: Quote:
just a quick thought I had, and hope I'm not stirring up a hornets nest, but what about adding a check box for cameo similar to the voice and uncredited.
this way if you are looking at movies that an actor appears in you know that in xyz movie they just had a cameo.
-Agrare First you would have to define cameo. I think simply using (uncrediited) is probably the best answer. @cmae if you recognized Cedriic then why not provide a time stamp and list him, sound like an interesting piece of data to me. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,777 |
| | Posted: | | | | I remember thinking I saw Cedric as well. Standing on the steps as McClain and charge exit the DC police station. My problem is that I'm never sure if it's "them" or somebody who just looks similar, when dealing with uncredited. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | That's a valid point, midnit. But some additional research MIGHT reveal the answer, maybe there's some reference to it at Cedric's website, or whoever.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
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just a quick thought I had, and hope I'm not stirring up a hornets nest, but what about adding a check box for cameo similar to the voice and uncredited.
this way if you are looking at movies that an actor appears in you know that in xyz movie they just had a cameo.
-Agrare
First you would have to define cameo. I think simply using (uncrediited) is probably the best answer.
@cmae if you recognized Cedriic then why not provide a time stamp and list him, sound like an interesting piece of data to me.
Skip Oddly enough, I agree with Skip.  Just kidding.  Seriously though, while there is a definition for the word 'cameo'...a bit part played by a famous actor who would ordinarily not take such a small part...deciding which actors qualify would be quite difficult. Lumping them all in as 'uncredited' seems to be the easiest solution. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Vega: Quote:
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Actors will take uncredited cameos in films, just because they are friends with the star or director.
Another big one that left me scratching my head was Owen Wilson's part in Night at the Museum. Yea, I didn't get that one either. He had a fairly significant role.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
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Actors will take uncredited cameos in films, just because they are friends with the star or director.
Another big one that left me scratching my head was Owen Wilson's part in Night at the Museum.
Yea, I didn't get that one either. He had a fairly significant role. He did it to screw with people like us  | | | Schultzy - http://www.michaelschultz.net
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