Welcome to the Invelos forums. Please read the forum rules before posting.

Read access to our public forums is open to everyone. To post messages, a free registration is required.

If you have an Invelos account, sign in to post.

    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1 2 3  Previous   Next
Headers in End Credits
Author Message
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorninehours
Registered: April 3, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United Kingdom Posts: 1,998
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Apology's if this as already been asked. If the end credits have the cast in sections with headers like this

Should the cast list be entered like this or should they be ignored
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
Strength Through Unity
Registered: May 19, 2007
Reputation: Superior Rating
Germany Posts: 6,730
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I chose "ignore them" because these headers transport no additional information to the cast list.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


Registrant since 05/22/2003
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantDr. Killpatient
Here's my card
Registered: May 19, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 5,917
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Agreed with Goblin.  Now if it was something like a category like saying "Eloi" and a list of names instead of a list of name with "Eloi" after it, that could be used as a header/divider.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
Don't be discommodious
Registered: March 13, 2007
United States Posts: 21,610
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I have no opinion, nor would I object to using a divider based on the picture. The header had some sort of significance to the filmmakers, though I have no clue what it might have been, fortunately these things are rather rare.

Skip
ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here

Billy Video
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributormdnitoil
Registered: March 14, 2007
United States Posts: 1,777
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Personally, I would not enter it.  While I recognize there are some who might want to exactly recreate what appears on the screen, for me personally it's not useful.  My database is to conveniently look things up and this kind of stuff just creates clutter.  If I really want to see this great junk, I can watch the DVD...god forbid.  But that's my opinion.  I'd vote neutral on this kind of thing and tear it out locally if it ever crept in.


Someone else's comment regarding role grouping as it appears in the credits has merit.  But stuff like AND, WITH, FEATURING, etc. has almost zero use for me.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCubbyUps
Registered: March 14, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 4,245
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I voted for Ignore Them.

To me the cast dividers should be used if they describe the role of a group of actors. This example seems more like a page of a book and continues the actors on another page and lets the viewer know that with the use of the word "with".
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorcvermeylen
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Belgium Posts: 1,946
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageDirect link to this postReply with quote
I agree with the others not to enter them. They provide no usefull information.
View my collection at http://www.chriskepolis.be/home/dvd.htm

Chris
 Last edited: by cvermeylen
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKatatonia
Retired Profiler
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 20,111
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
I agree with the majority, ignore them. I wouldn't vote no however.
Corey
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
Profiling since Dec. 2000
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Netherlands Posts: 8,736
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
I'd really like some guidance for this in the rules. For the record: I voted to ignore these. But this thread shows the problem quite nicely: some users indicate they wouldn't vote no. In the smaller localities, contributions like this have a bigger chance of getting approved, and for those that don't use the dividers, it gets a lot harder to do cast updates. There is a lot of room for personal preference here: basically the first contributor for a new profile gets to choose how he handles things, and from then on it will be quite hard to change, as opinions will often be split over what is "correct". Ideally, I would like the rules to specifically define when dividers should be used, so that we're all on the same page.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantDr. Killpatient
Here's my card
Registered: May 19, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 5,917
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I feel that if the separator had some direct relationship to the cast such as a group role, then yes - include it.  Fluff separators such as shown here shouldn't be included.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorreybr
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Norway Posts: 906
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I voted for ignoring them and would vote no on a contribution adding them. To me, the only use of dividers is to separate different cast lists. No group roles, no headers. Only to separate different cast lists.

The topic of dividers was brought up just a week ago in this thread

And I agree with T!M. We really need to get this clarified in the rules (I hope Ken will give us his intentions and ideas about the dividers as well)

The colour of her eyes, were the colour of insanity
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantWhite Pongo, Jr.
No, I iz no Cheshire Cat!
Registered: August 22, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Posts: 1,807
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Dr. Killpatient:
Quote:
I feel that if the separator had some direct relationship to the cast such as a group role, then yes - include it.  Fluff separators such as shown here shouldn't be included.


I feel the same as you, but I think I wouldn't vote NO if someone wants them.
-- Enry
 Last edited: by White Pongo, Jr.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantkahless
TaH pagh taHbe'!
Registered: March 14, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Germany Posts: 17,804
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Those headers in the screenshot do not contain any useful informations. IMHO those kind of "headers" are not covered by the rules because they do not distinguish anything.

Therefore using dividers with a name like "AND" or "WITH" seems to me absurd. So I choosed "ignore them"!
Thorsten
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantpauls42
Reg: 31/01/2003
Registered: March 13, 2007
United Kingdom Posts: 2,692
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
As others have said - these are pointless. Ignore them.
Paul
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorninehours
Registered: April 3, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United Kingdom Posts: 1,998
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Yes i think there is a difference between what i posted about and something like this

Which i think they should be included in the profile.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantkahless
TaH pagh taHbe'!
Registered: March 14, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Germany Posts: 17,804
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting ninehours:
Quote:
Yes i think there is a difference between what i posted about and something like this

Which i think they should be included in the profile.


ACK, a good example of what dividers are designed for (IMHO)!
Thorsten
    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1 2 3  Previous   Next