I'm currently auditing the UK profile of "From the Earth to the Moon" (Signature Edition, UPC 7-321900-254830). Great series, by the way.

Well, for some strange reason the end credits for the last episode (episode 12) are incorrect, because instead of the credits for this actual episode, the credits for episode 6 are shown (clearly visible because the cast list header states "cast of characters - Part Six"). Obviously some kind of mastering error. 

First of all, I was interested if this is also true for other editions and other regions. I checked for other profiles of this series with complete cast and crew lists, and found an US profile (026359-936326) and a German profile (4-042907-100397) for the older editions, and the US child profiles for the "Signature Edition". Looking at these, it seems that the older editions had the correct list, while all "Signature Editions" have that mastering error (by the way, the cast lists in all the profiles I mentioned contain numerous errors - in case you own one of these, you might consider correcting this).

So what should I do now ? The contributor of the US child profiles simply dumped the incorrect credits into the list for episode 12. Even as a strong supporter of the "as credited" philisophy I don't want to do this. Should I simply use the data from the opening credits and leave out the infos from the end credits (the opening credits have the main cast and nearly all crew) ? Or should I take the data for this episode from an different profile ? 

Hmmmm. Interesting. Here is what i think after thinking on it for a few minutes. From a "colectible" POV it is important that we capture the data as is, errors can become valuable and we need to be distinguish that error. However, I think perhaps I would include a divider listing the ACTUAL credits for that particular Episode and be sure to document it in your notes so that everyone knows that is an error. It is entirely possible, that subsequent pressings of the signature edition may be corrected or may have been corrected.

Skip

Well at least you used the right term, oleops. "Hide behind the Rules". Thgat does nothing to help us catch the error. Imagine if you will, since recalls happen all the time, that the Signature Edition was recalled and Tigi somehow managed to get his hands on one of a small handful that escaped the recall.

Skip

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I was only stating that this would be ok by the rules, (the rule I quoted)
And if the provider for the profile mensions it in the notes as you say this must be the best way...

The "hide behind" is because everybody knows the rules better and understand them better that every bordy else in here...

I don't see how it would be "ok by the rules".  The rule you quoted is for films with no credits, not for films with wrong credits. 

I tend to agree with Skip on this one.  Use a divider to seperate the two cast lists.

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So the rules must be exactly specific for you to use it?

Are you new to the party?  I do not pretend a rule says something it doesn't.  The rule you quoted dealt with a specific situation...no credits.

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interesting - to match the rules then, you have to use uncredit for each and everyone... in your custom ep12 cast?

Um, no.  Based on Tigi's post, the cast is listed in the opening credits.  This is covered by the rules:

If a film has actors listed in the opening credits, which are not listed in the end credits, add these to the list in DVD Profiler before those taken from the end credits.

No uncredited needed.

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For this spesific profile in question the dividers are already there, as it is more than one episode on each disc, so you want a divider saying "ep9" , "ep10" , "ep11" , "ep6" and "the real cast for ep12..."   

It isn't about "what I want," it is about what the rules call for.  I may not always like the results but, for the online DB, I do what the rules tell me to do.

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and - wrong credits are the same as no credit by me 

That is all well and good, but the rules don't make that distinction.

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I tend to agree with Skip on this one.  Use a divider to seperate the two cast lists.

And I agree with you two.

I also agree with Skip.

Quoting HilbertHimmelwaerts:

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I would take the information from another profile. Yes the rules are important to get a high-quality and continuous database. But when following the rules means that we get complete wrong data i see no sense in that.

The rules state:

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Use the Video specified on the DVD Cover unless you can verify there is a discrepancy between that and the actual Video included on the disc. When contributing accurate, DVD based Video – including P&S in place of Full Frame - include your verification method in your Contribution Notes.

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Use the Running time specified on the DVD cover unless you can verify there is a discrepancy between that and the actual Running time. When contributing an accurate, DVD-based, time from the DVD, round down from 29 seconds and up from 30 seconds in the nearest minute. Include your verification method in your Contribution Notes.

You can verify that there is a discrepancy and obviously a mastering error. In my opinion this is a similar situation.

There is NO SUCH provision within the cast and Crew data, nice analogy but it doesn't work.

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