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Stephen King writing credit for Creepshow |
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Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,621 |
| Posted: | | | | I have 2 versions of this movie in my collection for now (soon to sell or trade R1) and was going through correcting movies where the credits "jump" when clicking through my local (when different dvds of same film). On one King is credited as Writer, the other is Screenwriter. Having looked at the rules I'm not positive which is correct and here's why... Copied from rules: Screenwriter: Screenwriter, Screenplay, Teleplay Use for Adapted Screenplays Writer: Writer, Written by Used for Original Screenplays only King is credited as "orignal screenplay by". Being screenplay leads me to think Screenwriter. I can argue (I'm not, but I could ) that Writer is correct since it's an original and not adapted like it says to use for Screenwriter. What do you all think is proper in this case. Letter of the rule leads me to Writer since it's not adapted, but screenwriter sounds and looks more like what's on the film. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,911 |
| Posted: | | | | Following the rules as they are written, it would be Writer. | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... |
| | johnd | Evening, poetry lovers. |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 298 |
| Posted: | | | | Screenwriter, as they are all adaptations of King short stories. |
| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | I've got to agree with Johnd. As far as I remember none of the stories were original for the film, but adapted by King from his own short stories. I also think the notes in the credits rules are misleading, they are there to guide you to the right role, but they don't override the previous columns which clearly state that if you have a "screenplay" onscreen credit, you use "screenwriter". |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | I agree with John and North. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,911 |
| Posted: | | | | According to the rules, which is what we go by...
Writer says "Used for Original Screenplays Only"
If the credit is "Stephen King --- Original Screenplay" he should be credited as Writer until the rules are modified. | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... | | | Last edited: by NewEnglander |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Screenwriter would be the correct Credit.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 20,111 |
| Posted: | | | | I agree, it should be Screenwriter. | | | Corey |
| Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,621 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote: I've got to agree with Johnd. As far as I remember none of the stories were original for the film, but adapted by King from his own short stories. I also think the notes in the credits rules are misleading, they are there to guide you to the right role, but they don't override the previous columns which clearly state that if you have a "screenplay" onscreen credit, you use "screenwriter". I forgot that these were existing short stories for some reason, so I agree with screenwriter. Thanks for the tip about the rules misleading. Thanks to everyone else for helping, the disc with wrong credit will be corrected. |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,640 |
| Posted: | | | | Very good question, Sometime in the French country they are exactly the same problem , I will take the same name , but Whe have this problem with many old Movies , sorry Classic French Movies. 1: EX: Scénario original Stephen King , Adaptation Stephen King, ( Translate ) Original screenplay Stephen King, Adapted Stephen King : 2: And an other exemple, Story based on the novel by Stephen King, Srceenplay Stephen King, Adapted for the Screen Stephen King: I my mind and folow the rules , That mean, for the first one, Original Material Stephen King, and Writer Stephen King . Second one : Original Material by Stephen King, Screenplay By Stephen King, Writer stephen King, Of course I can use an other name, But They are many case as this in the french Classic movies. Do you think that's correct ??? Whe have that many time on open credits, Story from Simenon based on his novel, Sénario Simenon, Adaptation Simenon , Original matérial, Srcreenwiter, Writer ???? | | | My collection |
| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 585 |
| Posted: | | | | I haven't viewed the credits myself, but is he credited multiple times by chance? The problem here is 2 of the stories are adapted from previous King short stories, the other 3 stories were original stories King written just for the movie. They were not adapted from any of his other work, they were completely original.
So if he's only credited once then there is a dilema, but if it's multiple times then perhaps he should be credited both ways. | | | "Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men" - Douglas Bader "A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams | | | Last edited: by Vega |
| Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,621 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Vega: Quote: I haven't viewed the credits myself, but is he credited multiple times by chance? The problem here is 2 of the stories are adapted from previous King short stories, the other 3 stories were original stories King written just for the movie. They were not adapted from any of his other work, they were completely original.
So if he's only credited once then there is a dilema, but if it's multiple times then perhaps he should be credited both ways. I only saw the one credit last night. I must confess that since this was the only difference in the profiles, I didn't bother to check the end credits. I'll check them later today/tonight, but don't recall seeing anything else about writing when I audited the UK 2 disc not long ago. So far I didn't submit anything for this title, as I ended up trying to figure out the even more confusing Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974) after starting this thread. |
| | Erik | It's a strange world. |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 422 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting pplchamp: Quote: According to the rules, which is what we go by...
Writer says "Used for Original Screenplays Only"
If the credit is "Stephen King --- Original Screenplay" he should be credited as Writer until the rules are modified. The "screenplay by" credit without any OMB was approved by Ken in the April 11, 2007 rules revision. So if he only has the "original screenplay by" credit, screenwriter it is... | | | Erik
"Has it ever occurred to you, man, that given the nature of all this new stuff, that, uh, instead of running around blaming me, that this whole thing might just be, not, you know, not just such a simple, but uh - you know?" -- The Dude, The Big Lebowski
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,759 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Erik: Quote: The "screenplay by" credit without any OMB was approved by Ken in the April 11, 2007 rules revision.
So if he only has the "original screenplay by" credit, screenwriter it is... "screenplay by" != "original screenplay by" |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting pplchamp: Quote: According to the rules, which is what we go by...
Writer says "Used for Original Screenplays Only"
If the credit is "Stephen King --- Original Screenplay" he should be credited as Writer until the rules are modified. If we were to go by the "comments" only, I would agree with you, however, the allowable roles is the more important column in that table, and as has been pointed out many. many. many times, the "Use for Original Screenplays only" comment is confusing the issue and needs to be removed. | | | Hal |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,759 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote: If we were to go by the "comments" only, I would agree with you, however, the allowable roles is the more important column in that table,(...) "original screenplay by" is not listed in the "allowable roles" column at all. So, should we leave this credit out completely? |
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