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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantWhite Pongo, Jr.
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The Rules for TV series say:
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Complete Series/Season & Anthologies of Episodes - A simple list of Episodes may also be added to the standard overview. Do not add episode synopses to the overview field, but these can be added to the local non-contributed “Notes” field.


My questions:

1. Where do you take episode titles from, if they are not on the case?
Booklet or screen?

    2. How do you capitalize episode titles in the episode list? For instance:
"THE PACK" -> ?
"The pack" -> ?


    3. Would it be a No-No to add in brackets the screen title of each episode after the title as it appears on the case or booklet, if different? (sometimes different language, sometimes same language but some differences anyway).

      4. If on the case there is only the episode list, would you also contribute a short description of the series (from the booklet, or self-written) above the Episode List itself? 
-- Enry
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1. The screen would be best for titles for those shows that have them; for those that don't, I don't know about menus versus packaging. Menus I guess.

2. Fully capitalised titles would use standardised capitalisation rules as with the title field (i.e. "The Pack")

3. Not really, there's no need for both to be represented, especially as the dividers aren't searchable in any way

4. No, in that instance, the episode list would serve the purposes of the overview rule.
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1. Screen first, menus second, case third.

2. Standard capitalization Rules unless they are part of the Overview on the back cover in which they should be entered "exactly as they appear on the back cover".

3. No, except they they should be entered in the language of the locality of the DVD.

4. Yes.  If there is only an episode list then there is no "Overview" and per the Rules it is permissible to add "one or two paragraphs" of your own.
Hal
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I agree with Hal on everything except point #4.  On that point, I agree with Nadja.
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I agree with Hal on everything except point #4.  On that point, I agree with Nadja.


I would agree if there were episode synopses on the cover that would be included in DVDP, but just an episode list doesn't seem like much of an overview to me.

Someone unfamiliar with the show would have no idea what it is about.
Hal
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I agree with Hal on everything except point #4.  On that point, I agree with Nadja.


I would agree if there were episode synopses on the cover that would be included in DVDP, but just an episode list doesn't seem like much of an overview to me.

Someone unfamiliar with the show would have no idea what it is about.


I understand what you are saying, I just don't agree.  Whether or not an overview is informative has never been the question.  We simply copy what is there.  I am not saying that I like it, just how I read the rules.
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Yup, just a different interpretation.

I do not consider an epsiode list to be an overview at all.
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Does the Episode List on the case serve the purpose of an Overview or does it not, that is the question. 
If it does, then 4=No, and "The pack"->"The pack".
If it does not, then 4=Yes, and "The pack" -> "The Pack".
-- Enry
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1. Screen first, menus second, case third.


What about the booklet?

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3. No, except they they should be entered in the language of the locality of the DVD
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If the  episode title on screen and menus is in the original language, while the title on case and booklet is in the language of the locality of the DVD, would you use the latter, and the latter only?
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1. Screen first, menus second, case third.


What about the booklet?


1. Screen first, menus second, booklet third, case last.

Quoting EnryWiki:
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3. No, except they they should be entered in the language of the locality of the DVD
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If the  episode title on screen and menus is in the original language, while the title on case and booklet is in the language of the locality of the DVD, would you use the latter, and the latter only?


I'd use the language of the locality only.
Hal
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1. Screen first, menus second, booklet third, case last.


What is the rationale of that?
After all, we take DVD Titles from the case and standard Overviews from the case.
-- Enry
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1. Screen first, menus second, booklet third, case last.


What is the rationale of that?
After all, we take DVD Titles from the case and standard Overviews from the case.

For the credits section, the rules state:

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Take the episode title from the episode itself, or from elsewhere on the DVD or DVD packaging, exactly as shown.


Also, you've already quoted the part of the rules about episode lists in overviews ("A simple list of Episodes may also be added..."), which doesn't name the list of sources.

Therefore, all of these (menus, booklet, case) are acceptable sources if there is no on-screen title and there is no order of acceptance. In the absence of an on-screen episode title, any title pulled from the menus, booklet or case would be correct, even if they conflict with each other. In the case of such a conflict, I would think that whatever is in the database, as long as it came from "elsewhere on the DVD or DVD packaging", it should be left alone. But that isn't resolved in the rules either. 
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorhal9g
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1. Screen first, menus second, booklet third, case last.


What is the rationale of that?
After all, we take DVD Titles from the case and standard Overviews from the case.


It's just my preference.  It's not actually spelled out in the Rules, as James points out.
Hal
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I never know just what to do if the episodes on the DVD are not in the same order that they appear on the box (or booklet).  In a couple of Western series that I've reviewed, some of the episodes were mis-labeled.  I never know quite how to do it.  Usually what I would do, though, is put them in the order that they ACTUALLY appear on the discs - and add that they are out of order to the contribution notes.
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