While in the process of analyzing a season of Cheyenne, I have run across a number of Native American actors.  I'm wondering how to parse these names.

Example:  Chief Dan George (not in the TV series I'm analyzing, BTW)

Chief Dan George //

Chief / Dan / George

Chief Dan // George

Dan // George [Credited as Chief Dan George]

      <<-- I'm leaning this way

Example:  Eddie Little Sky

Eddie / Little / Sky

Eddie Little Sky //

Eddie // Little Sky          <<-- My preference, as I believe Little Sky is actually his surname

If "Chief" is being taken in the same way as "Sir", then by the majority opinion in  this thread Ken's leaning is correct, in not including the title.

Where is the rule AGAINST it? Ken has stated quite clearly that he's behind the ways common names are generally being derived, and none of those came from him. With such a majority of the voting userbase behind excluding prefixes, what is so ambiguous?

I'm thinking that Ken's preferred options are the best ones to go for.
If we are going to class "Chief" as a prefix, then I agree that "credited as" is the best place to have it.
Although one argument to keep it part of the name is that a person is far more likely to be a Chief before they appear in films, therefore will always be credited with it. Whereas a "sir" tends to earn the title because of their film work, and so is likely to have credits both with and without.

Quoting hal9g:

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I agree with:

Chief Dan//George  (this is the same as 'Sir')

and Eddie//Little Sky

I agree as well. Also, excluding the prefix is consistent with the working guidelines of the Credited As database.

What does that even slightly have to do with the question of including prefixes?

I daresay there are people making a half-assed approach. But what has that got to do with the discussion at hand?

Quoting northbloke:

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Although one argument to keep it part of the name is that a person is far more likely to be a Chief before they appear in films, therefore will always be credited with it. Whereas a "sir" tends to earn the title because of their film work, and so is likely to have credits both with and without.

OF course, that assumes the person really IS a Chief and has not just taken the name as part of his screen name, like many professional wrestlers who called themselves Chief So-and-So.  I think most of them were not authentic Chiefs - some weren't even Native Americans (like Iron Eyes Cody, who was actually of Italian descent [nee Espera Oscar DeCorti] and not a Native American at all.)

I hope I didn't initiate a long, multi-page thread on this topic.  I remember that before the current build of Profiler we included titles with the first name (Father So-and-so, Doctor So-and-so, etc.) so Chief Dan would fit THAT pattern. Of course, that was before we had the As Credited capability.

I haven't looked at my profile for Josey Wales to see how Chief Dan George is shown in that film, but I don't have a problem with using Chief Dan // George.  Especially in his case, since I don't think he was credited any other way.