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Cast&Crew: Copy from existing profiles?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantWhite Pongo, Jr.
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I voted "No". There are so many errors in the existing profiles, a blind copy makes little sense to me.
-- Enry
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I voted "No". There are so many errors in the existing profiles, a blind copy makes little sense to me.


I agree... I compare my contribution to the credits every single time. Even if I know... and trust the work of the original contributor.... everyone and anyone can make a mistake. So I think the best idea is to always verify what you contribute with the credits.
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I also voted no. I have no objection to people copying cast & crew to save inputting time, but it must still be checked to verify it's correct.
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Cast isn't always the same for every locality release. For instance, the animated feature Robots has a different cast for US, UK, Australian, and perhaps others due to the fact that some minor voice parts were given out as prizes in a competition.
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I would have to say it depends... I always look for the usual tell tale signs that it's been sourced from IMDb but if the data looks accurate, I tend to accept it.

I wish there were an approved "master profile" for every movie that we could copy instead of having to do the same work over and over again for every edition and locality.
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I wish there were an approved "master profile" for every movie that we could copy instead of having to do the same work over and over again for every edition and locality.


This would indeed be very useful and has been suggested several times in the past, e.g. here. Might be difficult to implement though.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantWhite Pongo, Jr.
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I would have to say it depends... I always look for the usual tell tale signs that it's been sourced from IMDb but if the data looks accurate, I tend to accept it.


I've even found a cast member contributed with an ordinal number!   

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I wish there were an approved "master profile" for every movie that we could copy instead of having to do the same work over and over again for every edition and locality.


That would be extremely useful.

EDIT: ...yet I wouldn't speak of a "master profile", but of "linked" profiles.
-- Enry
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I voted "No". There are so many errors in the existing profiles, a blind copy makes little sense to me.


I agree... I compare my contribution to the credits every single time. Even if I know... and trust the work of the original contributor.... everyone and anyone can make a mistake. So I think the best idea is to always verify what you contribute with the credits.


I voted for  the first one.. as I don't always have a lot of time on my hands to verify contributions that have already been voted on and approved of in the data base..

Thank goodness we have fellows like you that can verify the approved verified...
You find a mistake and mention it in your negative vote, you can be sure I'll either change it on the fly or in some cases will see how Ken accepts it.. ( Charles Martin Smith comes to mind..)

 
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantKrikarian
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i say nay. if i dinna build it myself (and then i'll do it anyway because i'm not infallible), i'm checking it before contributing. i've found numerous profiles that have been accepted into the database (especially during the mad rush to repopulated 3.0+) that are completely wrong.

to quote spooky mulder: trust no one...

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It is not clear whether the poll is about ones own contribution, or about voting for someone else's.

For my own: I'd always check against the credits, even if I start with a copy from another profile.
For voting: Assuming it is not a copy of you-know-where, then I vote yes if it seems reasonably trustworthy, or else I wait till I can verify it myself.
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I voted for 'depends who entered it' but what that really means is if I see a name I trust and their contribution notes say they took from actual credits I'm fine with it. If it's someone I don't know or the profile is old from Intervocative days and so has no contribution note details I run a quick check on a few key credits and if they are OK I usually assume the rest are.
Actually the first thing I usually do if I am unsure is check it against the IMDb... if it's significantly different I immediately give it more credence (especially, for example, if the IMDb says someone is credited under a different name than 'normal' and the profile has it under the IMDb's common name I know where it's come from and don't use it/trust it)
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantWhite Pongo, Jr.
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It is not clear whether the poll is about ones own contribution,


That's it. Own contribution 
-- Enry
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I voted Yes, for the simple reason that in our small locality, if the 10 major users were to add credits to all profiles, i would probably only have credits in ~5% of my DVD's. I'll take the quantity over quality.
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I wish there were an approved "master profile" for every movie that we could copy instead of having to do the same work over and over again for every edition and locality.


That is a great idea!
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I wish there were an approved "master profile" for every movie that we could copy instead of having to do the same work over and over again for every edition and locality.

That is a great idea!


This has been mentioned as an idea before but sometimes (OK, not often, but sometimes) the credits differ depending on Locality/Release
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I wish there were an approved "master profile" for every movie that we could copy instead of having to do the same work over and over again for every edition and locality.

That is a great idea!


This has been mentioned as an idea before but sometimes (OK, not often, but sometimes) the credits differ depending on Locality/Release


In such a case, you wouldn't "link" it to the original profile when you contribute.

Let me explain with a for instance. Let's say I want to create a new profile for my locality/edition/...  Now I copy the Cast and Crew from an existing profile (I pick one that seems to be OK), then I check credits in the film credits, then enter some other data specific to the DVD, and eventually contribute the new profile to the online database.

My suggestion is that we could "link" the new profile to the original profile, by checking a box or something like that. That way, the existing Cast and Crew would be automagically copied to the new profile, and any new contribution/correction to Cast and Crew in any of the linked profiles would also apply to the linked profiles. Of course, all the owners of the linked profiles would be allowed to vote on any contribution.

If, as you say, in a few cases credits differ depending on Locality/Release, then just don't check the "Link to original profile" box, and keep the new profile as a standalone profile, so to speak. 
-- Enry
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