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Troy: Director's Cut: Ultimate Collector's Edition
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorBerak
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How should I enter this title into the DB?

The Edition Field is not long enough to fit 'Director's Cut: Ultimate Collector's Edition', so should I use the title field for either, or leave something out?

Thanks in advance.
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Berak:

My first question. This may sound odd but it has been seen before. What is the On screen title. For example. The DC of King Arthur released a while back, actually had an On Screen title the said King Arthur: Director's Cut. If the title of the film is Troy: Director's Cut yoiu have the answer. Otherwise, I would say Director's Cut: Ultimate Collector's Ed.

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Thanks Skip - the on-screen title is just Troy, so I guess I'll try to contribute with your suggested abbreviation...
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I would treat it as a modified title for my local. Saves arguing in the forums... 
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Quoting Patsa:
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I would treat it as a modified title for my local. Saves arguing in the forums... 


Does 'Director's Cut: Ultimate Collector's Edition' qualify as a title though?     

Personally I think it should go in the edition field (although I am not too happy with the abbreviation)... 
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I disagree with patsa for contribution purposes, what you do loaclly is anoher story. I am with you on the abbreviation but sometimes we have no choice. If it doesn't fit there is not much you can do about it.

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Well, I'll give my opinion anyway since no one asked for it... 

Troy is a different movie. This is the expanded version. Technically both the film and title have been modified. Look at the studio blurb on the back, it says "Troy Director's Cut" within quotation marks. And on the front, the title and edition are clearly separated. But that's just my opinion... 
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Quoting Patsa:
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Well, I'll give my opinion anyway since no one asked for it... 

Troy is a different movie. This is the expanded version. Technically both the film and title have been modified. Look at the studio blurb on the back, it says "Troy Director's Cut" within quotation marks. And on the front, the title and edition are clearly separated. But that's just my opinion... 


But still - you can't deny the fact that in the opening credits of this "different" film, the name of the film is still Troy?   
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Quoting Patsa:
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Well, I'll give my opinion anyway since no one asked for it... 

Troy is a different movie. This is the expanded version. Technically both the film and title have been modified.


In my view, "Director's Cut" editions are, well..., editions. 
The screen title usually remains unvaried, AFAIK.  "Troy" is still "Troy".  And that should tell you something.


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Look at the studio blurb on the back, it says "Troy Director's Cut" within quotation marks.


IMHO, that only shows that we cannot *always* trust the back blurb as an authoritative source about the title of the movie for DVDP purposes.


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And on the front, the title and edition are clearly separated. But that's just my opinion... 


It seems to me that for DVDP purposes a Director's Cut version is the same movie as the original release.

From the Rules:
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For films that have been updated (e.g., a Special Edition or Directors Cut) use the year of the original release, not the year that the re-release was “made” or released.
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BTW; how was this handled with "Alexander Revisited: The Final Cut" ? Maybe it was also the on-screen title, I don't remember now...
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If the cover looks anything like the HD covers in the database (the first 2 I could find), then I think Patsa's idea of using modified title could be a valid one.
The cover shows "Troy: Director's Cut" as a title and in the case of the HD versions, a strap at the top containing "Special Edition"
So if this cover is similar then you could go for:
Title: Troy: Director's Cut
Edition: Ultimate Collector's Edition
Original Title: Troy

That seems to cover all the bases and is still as per rules.

Edit: Alexander Revisited does the same. "Alexander Revisited: The Final Cut" as title, "2 Disc Special Edition" as edition, original title is "Alexander".
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My question is after adding all the Director's cut and Ultimate edition etc. etc..
Does it make the movie any better???

         
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