So i hope you all understand what i mean because my english is bad.

I make a Contribution of the Film "Music & Lyrics" (Mitten ins Herz:  Ein Song für dich).

This is what i wrote:

Profile completed with all Information; Source: DVD Credits
Uncredited Cast from imdb.com


Now the Contribution is "Declined" because of the third party database imdb.com that i used for the uncredited Cast. But what can i used for the Uncredited Cast as an third party Database?

funny is that i got "5 Yes" and "0 No" with No Comment.

So what is that for a damn rule that i can not use a third party database for the uncredited cast.
i can't suck the cast from my fingers, i need a third party database.

Angel200

As indicated by Ken already: it's all a matter of respecting Copyrights. The last thing we want is Invelos getting sued by IMDB because their data is widely copied into the Invelos database.

Angel:

Try reading the Introduction, which is the FIRST page of the Rules. You will find the following.

"The authoritative source for information submitted should be the DVD itself.  Please don't submit content from a third party database, and always verify the specifications printed on the cover.  In both cases, errors abound, so always verify the information directly from the DVD whenever possible.

Skip

It's a bit more complicated than that. Because english is not your first language it's understandable that it causes some confusion.
If you only look at one database then you are "using" that database's information - and that is not allowed - see Ken's post.
If you look at a lot of databases and they all agree that the information is correct then you are "referencing" those databases. I still would not recommend it for uncredited cast, but it is allowed for other information like RRP or release dates etc.

The rule mentioned is on the introduction page of the rules, it says:

Quote:

The authoritative source for information submitted should be the DVD itself.  Please don't submit content from a third party database, and always verify the specifications printed on the cover.  In both cases, errors abound, so always verify the information directly from the DVD whenever possible.

Edit: quite a few posts while I was typing this! But it stills makes some sort of sense   

Especially regarding uncredited cast entries, IMO those should only be allowed if the contributor can verify their correctness by mentioning the time of appearance in the respective movie, best followed by a confirming information from the special features included in the DVD or a biography or other publicly available non-internet data.

IMO most of these entries are completely useless as virtually no one can see the actors unless they're famous enough for individual visual confirmation. What is the value of knowing George Miller [random name, not necessarily correct, substitute with whatever name suits you] played a "Bystander at Parade"?

In the event of a formerly unknown but later risen to stardom actor, it shouldn't be too hard to find him in older films as well and visually confirm him or find reliable source material to prove the claim. Clint Eastwood's second performance as a Fighter Pilot in 1955's "Tarantula" comes to mind: he is NOT visually recognizable, but his appearance is well documented in biographies galore, so that's sourced beyond any reasonable doubt. A more recent example of a valuable uncredited entry is Owen Wilson in "Night at the Museum": He's easily recognizable, and his addition to the cast list offers valuable information, as his role isn't even a small one.

But except for those visually recognizable appearances, what's the use of having this kind of information in the first place? You know that the person mentioned might be in the movie (as most of the times the entries stem from the pre-ban-IMDB era at IVS) but you can't find them easily enough. It's like a "Schnitzeljagd" trying to pin them down if you're actually looking for them, as most of the times the role description is very vague.

Just my 2 ct.