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| Registered: April 12, 2007 |  Posts: 26 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'd like to see a compulsory spell check for the overview before you save a profile. At the same time a data integrity check should be performed so that i.e. a region1 DVD that cannot have Taiwan as locality will be declined in this configuration. The last creates unnecessary records in the database. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 1,338 |
| | Posted: | | | | not a bad idea | | | | -JoN |
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| Registered: March 24, 2007 |  Posts: 87 |
| | Posted: | | | | It is nice to have a spell check, but it must be possible to handle more languages then only English. But I think it will be a bit overkill. And remember: if an overview contains a spelling mistake on the box, it should be there in the profile as well, as per rules.
Regions might be a difficult feature. I know a lot of my DVDs are multiple region coded. A lot of European DVDs (R2) are coded R4 (Australia) as well. Some music DVDs I have are all regions except R1. Of course those should be allowed to input as well, since they are valid. | | | | Who is General Failure? And why is he reading my hard drive? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 2,692 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting thackl: Quote:
I'd like to see a compulsory spell check for the overview before you save a profile. At the same time a data integrity check should be performed so that i.e. a region1 DVD that cannot have Taiwan as locality will be declined in this configuration. The last creates unnecessary records in the database. Unfortunately the 'desire' to keep incorrectly spelt words in the overview if that's what was done on the cover means they (probably) won't implement this. Region code validation to locality is another difficult one.. How would you know that some Taiwan locality dvds wouldn't be R1 encoded as well (if not already but in the future)? | | | | Paul |
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| Registered: April 12, 2007 | | Posts: 26 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think keeping spelling errors from the cover in the database goes alittle too far as an effort to stick to the original. If I read an overview I want it to be right I don't care if the printer that did the back cover was dislexic.
The region code has been clearly defined as to which countries belong to what region. If that ever gets changed then DVD profiler can change it as well but so far it's all clearly defined.
I have suggested this only because many people can't spell (or type like me) but don't bother to check and also many adapt profiles from another country to their own but only change half the info. Incorrect locality will need two different uploads and creates two different records.
On one hand you need to substantiate the source of every single bit of info when contributing but many blatant errors are simply allowed. Very inconsistent |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 |  Posts: 56 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pauls42: Quote:
Region code validation to locality is another difficult one.. How would you know that some Taiwan locality dvds wouldn't be R1 encoded as well (if not already but in the future)? I think Region Code validation is an easy one, because each region is well defined and to check, if the location is possible, you have to build a set of countries, based on the given region codes, and check if the locality is one of this countries. It's quite simple. Changing the mapping of country to region code in the future is impossible, because all sold DVD players have one region code. If you change the code in Taiwan from R3 to R1, than all old players won't be able to play the new discs. I think it's safe to assume, that this won't happen, especially since the DVD is a legacy format. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,279 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting thackl: Quote:
The region code has been clearly defined as to which countries belong to what region. If that ever gets changed then DVD profiler can change it as well but so far it's all clearly defined.
You do know that we capture all the regions that the disc is set to and not just the region/locality it was sold in? All the UK released ADV titles I own are actually set for R1 & R2, not to mention the other discs I own that have other combinations of regions. This makes it much more difficult to code Profiler to validate the region/locality automatically. I don't think you can even validate by checking against more data as there's usually an exception, e.g. Japan is R2 NTSC, so video type wouldn't help. I think the best you could hope for is an optional warning that could pop up to tell you to check the region. But to date I think I've only ever submitted a couple of incorrect entries, and we can get these removed by removing the data and resubmitting with a title along the lines of "Screeners - incorrect entry please delete." | | | | IVS Registered: January 2, 2002 |
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| Registered: April 12, 2007 | | Posts: 26 |
| | Posted: | | | | I can't see the problem, each region has a clearly defined list of countries that it covers. It will only check that the locality is part of the region selected by the person entering the region. Multiple regions can be enterd and it will then be checked against a combined list of all these countries but, as an example, Canada will NEVER be R4. That is what currently passes through. |
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| Registered: March 24, 2007 | | Posts: 87 |
| | Posted: | | | | Although a region check would be nice, I think there are to many exceptions (see my earlier post, there are a lot of DVDs that are multiple region encoded) and to many variations. How about a DVD that is non region coded or all region coded? All of course in combination with locality and video format (PAL/NTSC/SECAM)
I don't think it is wort the effort for implementing this. It is 'cheaper'/easier to let the voters/screaners check this. | | | | Who is General Failure? And why is he reading my hard drive? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,279 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting thackl: Quote:
I can't see the problem, each region has a clearly defined list of countries that it covers. It will only check that the locality is part of the region selected by the person entering the region. Multiple regions can be enterd and it will then be checked against a combined list of all these countries but, as an example, Canada will NEVER be R4. That is what currently passes through. As soon as you start checking multiple regions and countries you start to allow mistakes through as in my example I could accidentally set the country to US, which the program would validate, even though I should set it to UK. I'd estimate that half of my R2 discs are coded for more than one region. In this scenario all you can do is flag a warning to check the region, which I prefer as there's always some scenario to crawl out the woodwork that shouldn't. | | | | IVS Registered: January 2, 2002 |
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| Registered: April 12, 2007 | | Posts: 26 |
| | Posted: | | | | hey guys, it's just a suggestion as the scanners seem not to check (let it pass). Of course a no region DVD could be set to any locality, so yes, a little pop up warning might be all that's needed. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,692 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting thackl: Quote:
, as an example, Canada will NEVER be R4. That is what currently passes through. it would be perfectly possible for a R1 dvd from Canada to also be R4 encoded. | | | | Paul |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,279 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting thackl: Quote:
hey guys, it's just a suggestion as the scanners seem not to check (let it pass). Of course a no region DVD could be set to any locality, so yes, a little pop up warning might be all that's needed. Understand that, just pointing out some problems that could arise.  | | | | IVS Registered: January 2, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ruineddaydreams: Quote:
not a bad idea Yup, its called data trapping. Standard data base practice since they invented the beast. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | | Posts: 56 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pauls42: Quote:
Quoting thackl:
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, as an example, Canada will NEVER be R4. That is what currently passes through.
it would be perfectly possible for a R1 dvd from Canada to also be R4 encoded. Canada will never be R4 only (and I think that was meant). A little example: USA -> R1 Germany -> R2 Australia -> R4 A german disc can have the following region codes in this example: R2, R2+R1, R2+R4 and R2+R1+R4. In all cases, the disc has to have the R2 region code, otherwise it won't be playable on local DVD players. The integrity check has to check, whether the DVD with location "Germany" has the R2 region code or not (or if the region code is set to R0, which is the abbreviation, that alle region codes are set on the disc). If the DVD doesn't have the R2 region code, than something is wrong and such a DVD wouldn't be sold on the German DVD market, because it isn't playable on most players. |
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| Registered: April 12, 2007 | | Posts: 26 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thanks Reihnold, you explained it much better than I ever did |
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