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I've seen the stunts listed with the cast in several instances but have always considered them part of the crew. This recently came up in a contribution (for The Interpreter) and was wondering what should be done.

Technically, they are sometimes listed with the cast but they don't play characters but, IMO, logically they are part of the crew.
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I've seen the stunts listed with the cast in several instances but have always considered them part of the crew. This recently came up in a contribution (for The Interpreter) and was wondering what should be done.

Technically, they are sometimes listed with the cast but they don't play characters but, IMO, logically they are part of the crew.


I feel the same way...but, if there is no space seperating them from the regular cast list, then they must be included as part of the cast.
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I've seen the stunts listed with the cast in several instances but have always considered them part of the crew. This recently came up in a contribution (for The Interpreter) and was wondering what should be done.

Technically, they are sometimes listed with the cast but they don't play characters but, IMO, logically they are part of the crew.


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I'm sure I've read somewhere that if it's
Actor
Actor
Stunt
Stunt
Actor
Actor

they are included...but if it's

Actor
Actor
Stunt
Stunt
other crew

they aren't.

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I've seen the stunts listed with the cast in several instances but have always considered them part of the crew. This recently came up in a contribution (for The Interpreter) and was wondering what should be done.

Technically, they are sometimes listed with the cast but they don't play characters but, IMO, logically they are part of the crew.


I wondered the same but the rules say to list "actor’s Name and the Role that they played" which is why I voted yes. There is no "role" per say, the name is just followed by "stunts". Is stunts considered a role? Also, if this is correct and stunts should be eliminated, would the "source" be the rules?
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I've seen the stunts listed with the cast in several instances but have always considered them part of the crew. This recently came up in a contribution (for The Interpreter) and was wondering what should be done.

Technically, they are sometimes listed with the cast but they don't play characters but, IMO, logically they are part of the crew.


I wondered the same but the rules say to list "actor’s Name and the Role that they played" which is why I voted yes. There is no "role" per say, the name is just followed by "stunts". Is stunts considered a role? Also, if this is correct and stunts should be eliminated, would the "source" be the rules?



If the stunt players are an integral part of the cast list - same font, same spacing, etc., then they are to be included.  If there is gap between actors and stunt people, or a change of font, then they aren't.
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No, stunting with Cast & Crew is not allowed. Especially if they are part of the IMDb Stunt Team.
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I wondered the same but the rules say to list "actor’s Name and the Role that they played" which is why I voted yes. There is no "role" per say, the name is just followed by "stunts". Is stunts considered a role? Also, if this is correct and stunts should be eliminated, would the "source" be the rules?


What if the actor that the stunt is replacing ("playing") is listed? That's as good as a role, surely.
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I wondered the same but the rules say to list "actor’s Name and the Role that they played" which is why I voted yes. There is no "role" per say, the name is just followed by "stunts". Is stunts considered a role? Also, if this is correct and stunts should be eliminated, would the "source" be the rules?


What if the actor that the stunt is replacing ("playing") is listed? That's as good as a role, surely.

You mean a stunt double. That's not a performance, it's just to make sure the actor does not get hurt or is not able to do.
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I wondered the same but the rules say to list "actor’s Name and the Role that they played" which is why I voted yes. There is no "role" per say, the name is just followed by "stunts". Is stunts considered a role? Also, if this is correct and stunts should be eliminated, would the "source" be the rules?


What if the actor that the stunt is replacing ("playing") is listed? That's as good as a role, surely.


I'm sooo confused! Personally I feel that people who perform the stunts should be included - the movie would not be the same without them. I changed my vote to neutral until I understand the rule correctly and can make the correct choice.
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I'm sooo confused! Personally I feel that people who perform the stunts should be included - the movie would not be the same without them. I changed my vote to neutral until I understand the rule correctly and can make the correct choice.


Snarbo's example is spot on.  If the stunt people are included in the cast list, they are entered into the profile.  If they are not, they do not.  It doesn't matter how they are credited, it only matters where.

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Generally, Kathy stunt people are not part of the Cast, they are USUALLY spearated from the cast and in their own listing. There are occassions where the stunt, or some of them, are actually a part of the cast listing. I don't like it, but it is what it is and in those cases they are part of the Cast. What snarbo referred to was derived from reporting what we went through with Stunts on the last Rules rewrite which was never published.<shrugs>

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When recently doing the Dead Silence credits, the end credits list quite a few "Stunts" credits (even a Stunt Coordinator) sandwiched in with the Actors with no breaks, and a couple of normal credits after them.
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Uhh yep, have i told you lately how much I hate Hollywood.

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Snarbo's example is good but it left one possibility out.

Actor
Actor
Stunt
Stunt

Crew

Should they be considered part of the cast ?
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Snarbo's example is good but it left one possibility out.

Actor
Actor
Stunt
Stunt

Crew

Should they be considered part of the cast ?


No. As I stated earlier I did read in one of the forum's somewhere

Actor
Actor
Stunt
Stunt
Actor
Actor
they are credited

Actor
Actor
Stunt
Stunt
other crew

or
Actor
Actor
Stunt
Stunt

Crew

they are not.
second NOT example is basically the same as the first NOT example.

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