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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorschizzzo
Registered: March 20, 2007
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Wouldn't it be good to have the kind of copy protection used on the DVD in the Database? Then you can see if the DVD runs on your PC/standalone player. Including CSS and Macrovision (there are still some DVDs without CSS and then it's legal in Germany to copy them for private use).
And you can find out which DVD is still a DVD (following the standards) and which one is a "bastard" causing lots of problems.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantpauls42
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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(there are still some DVDs without CSS and then it's legal in Germany to copy them for private use).


Just because it doesn't have CSS it doesn't mean they have relinquished their copyright.

The kind of protection is irrelevant when it comes to knowing if it will play since all players will decode the protection in order to play the dvd.

What is far more important is the Region code - this is what stops DVDs playing. And the answer to this is to buy a multi region player like everybody else..
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Registered: March 14, 2007
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(there are still some DVDs without CSS and then it's legal in Germany to copy them for private use).


Just because it doesn't have CSS it doesn't mean they have relinquished their copyright.

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No one said it means they have relinquished their copyright. But copyright is something that is granted by law, and the law defines which rights the copyright owner have and which rights you as a consumer have. Obviously these rights will differ from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.

If the copyright holder is not by law granted the right to restrict private copies it is completely irrelevant how many times the copyright holder writes you can't copy the movie - they can obviously not claim any rights besides what the law gives them.

Allowing private copies of movies without CSS smells a bit like an implementation of the EU directive (or whatever it is called) allowing you to copy movies without an efficient copy protection. It's worth noticing here that CSS has been ruled "not efficient" by a Finnish court. While this only applied directly to Finland (and I do not even know if it has been appealed), it is an interpretation of a law made to match the same EU directive as the lay in otuer countries is based on as well, so it might not be completely irrelevant elsewhere in the EU.
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Registered: March 20, 2007
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Quoting pauls42:
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The kind of protection is irrelevant when it comes to knowing if it will play since all players will decode the protection in order to play the dvd.


But not all copy protected DVDs play on all standalone player and/or software player. And if a user know which kind of protection isn't compatible to his player he can avoid buying those DVDs. I'm talking about things like X-Protect (used by Kinowelt in Germany on rental DVDs).

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What is far more important is the Region code - this is what stops DVDs playing. And the answer to this is to buy a multi region player like everybody else.


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Allowing private copies of movies without CSS smells a bit like an implementation of the EU directive (or whatever it is called) allowing you to copy movies without an efficient copy protection.


Yes it is.

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It's worth noticing here that CSS has been ruled "not efficient" by a Finnish court. While this only applied directly to Finland (and I do not even know if it has been appealed), it is an interpretation of a law made to match the same EU directive as the lay in otuer countries is based on as well, so it might not be completely irrelevant elsewhere in the EU.


I've read about it. I hope that the rest of the EU will follow the finnish example  .
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