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  | Berak | | Bibamus morieundum est! |
| Registered: May 10, 2007 |  Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | I feel we need a common ground regarding Country of Origin.
How do we decide which country to designate when there are multiple options (like 'A History of Violence' - Canada/USA; 'Alien' - UK/USA).
And where do we get this information from?
Any thoughts? | | | Berak
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 1,339 |
| | Posted: | | | | i believe the current method being used for this sort of thing is... location of first listed studio... | | | | -JoN |
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| | Posted: | | | | If I remember Gerri's post correctly, it's the country of origin of the primary production company. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 467 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well, not exactly. Since she determined that Lord of the Rings is US. When actually the production company comes from New Zealand. I think she meant that we should use the company who brings the money, and not the production company. |
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| Berak | | Bibamus morieundum est! |
| Registered: May 10, 2007 | | Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pompel9: Quote:
Well, not exactly. Since she determined that Lord of the Rings is US. When actually the production company comes from New Zealand. I think she meant that we should use the company who brings the money, and not the production company. And how on earth do you suggest we decide which production company has used the most money on a project!!? Some independent films have like 20 different production companies associated to it....  | | | Berak
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| Berak | | Bibamus morieundum est! |
| Registered: May 10, 2007 | | Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pompel9: Quote:
Well, not exactly. Since she determined that Lord of the Rings is US. When actually the production company comes from New Zealand. I think she meant that we should use the company who brings the money, and not the production company. And by the way - New Line Cinema is a US Production Comany and Wingnut Films is a New Zealand company, so Northblokes answer would apply to LOTR (New Line is first credited)...  | | | Berak
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 793 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Berak: Quote:
And how on earth do you suggest we decide which production company has used the most money on a project!!? Some independent films have like 20 different production companies associated to it.... I go with the first one listed in the "A xyz Production" part of the credits, unless I can find evidence to the contrary. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 467 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Berak: Quote:
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Well, not exactly. Since she determined that Lord of the Rings is US. When actually the production company comes from New Zealand. I think she meant that we should use the company who brings the money, and not the production company.
And by the way - New Line Cinema is a US Production Comany and Wingnut Films is a New Zealand company, so Northblokes answer would apply to LOTR (New Line is first credited)... New Line Cinema didn't produce the films. Wingnut did. New Line Cinema had the money, that's all. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Berak: Quote:
I feel we need a common ground regarding Country of Origin.
How do we decide which country to designate when there are multiple options (like 'A History of Violence' - Canada/USA; 'Alien' - UK/USA).
And where do we get this information from?
Any thoughts? One place I've found pretty reliable is TCMDB.com. Look up the movie using search, and in most cases the right side of page will list production information, including country of record. | | | John
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pompel9: Quote:
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Well, not exactly. Since she determined that Lord of the Rings is US. When actually the production company comes from New Zealand. I think she meant that we should use the company who brings the money, and not the production company.
And by the way - New Line Cinema is a US Production Comany and Wingnut Films is a New Zealand company, so Northblokes answer would apply to LOTR (New Line is first credited)...
New Line Cinema didn't produce the films. Wingnut did. New Line Cinema had the money, that's all. True. Peter Jackson went to New Line and pitched the movie. New Line hired Jackson and Wingnut to do it. They provided the money, without which it wouldn't have been made - certainly not the masterpiece we got at any rate! So definitely a US production. | | | John
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| johnd | | Evening, poetry lovers. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 298 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
True. Peter Jackson went to New Line and pitched the movie. New Line hired Jackson and Wingnut to do it. They provided the money, without which it wouldn't have been made - certainly not the masterpiece we got at any rate! So definitely a US production. Definitely a New Zealand production. Artistic vision is everything. The money could have come from anywhere. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,022 |
| | Posted: | | | | I've got dejá vú reading this | | |  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 793 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 811 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting johnd: Quote:
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True. Peter Jackson went to New Line and pitched the movie. New Line hired Jackson and Wingnut to do it. They provided the money, without which it wouldn't have been made - certainly not the masterpiece we got at any rate! So definitely a US production.
Definitely a New Zealand production. Artistic vision is everything. The money could have come from anywhere. Yes, a lot of very talented New Zealand people worked on the LOTR trilogy of films. There is no question that N.Z. native Peter Jackson is the genius most responsible for the success of LOTR masterpieces. But who released the film? It was New Line Cinema. New Line Cinema was founded in the US, and is one of the major American film studios (now a a subsidiary of Time Warner). If LOTR should be considered a New Zealand production, why was it nominated (and subsequently won) numerous Academy Awards all in the the domestic categories, and none in the Foreign Film category? Do you also think that "Heavenly Creatures" should be considered a New Zealand, and not a U.K. production? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 793 |
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| johnd | | Evening, poetry lovers. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 298 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Battling Butler: Quote:
If LOTR should be considered a New Zealand production, why was it nominated (and subsequently won) numerous Academy Awards all in the the domestic categories, and none in the Foreign Film category? When has the Academy Awards ever had anything to do with artistic expression? Just another case of American imperialism. "This is good, so it must be made in the good old US of A." Quote:
Do you also think that "Heavenly Creatures" should be considered a New Zealand, and not a U.K. production? Absolutely. Production Companies * Fontana Productions * New Zealand Film Commission * Senator Film Produktion GmbH * WingNut Films | | | | Last edited: by johnd |
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