Poll is closed.  See 5/28 post at end of thread.
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Another attempt at a poll to resolve this issue.
First poll is here.  No clear winner.
Second poll is here (Contribution Rules Forum).  Option [The Box Set Contents field of the partial box set's main database profile should only list the volume(s) that were originally sold with the box.] reaches 60% preference, but insufficient total number of votes in the poll to resolve the issue.

Rewriting the poll here.

The question at hand:

What should the Box Set Contents field of a partial box set profile contain, in the main database?

Definition: a partial box set is an artbox which, when purchased, may also be sold with some (usually one), but not all, of the volumes of the completed box set.  Additional volumes of the complete box set are sold (and profiled) separately.  These are often seen as "Vol. 1 + Box" or "Starter sets", or some other similar marketing term.  The box is considered a box set profile, per the results of this poll.

Instances of "Volume N + Box" are known to have been made for the first, second and last volumes of the series (where the last volume is between 3 and 8).


This is in reference to what should be acceptable as a contribution to the main database, not what is entered in your local database.  Which listing is chosen to be present in the main database has no relevance to what you have in your local database, since downloading the box profile removes all box set contents from the entry, and you will need to add those yourself regardless. In addition, Refreshing Updated Profiles will not change the Box Set Contents field no matter what has been changed in the main database.

Notes:

This poll is not about whether the child profiles should be entered.  Profiles for all additional volumes will be entered normally.  The only question is which child profiles have their links included in the main database version of the box profile's Box Set Contents.

This poll is not about which child profiles you include in your local Box Set Contents field.  You are free to include any, all, or none of the child profiles.  As stated above, they are independent of what's in the main database.

Extra Note:

A change to the program in version 3.03 modifies the behavior of moving Box Set profiles between categories.  Child profiles are now moved at the same time as the parent profile.  However downloaded Box Sets still do not automatically download the child profiles, so the affect of this will only be on profiles that the user has modified themselves.



The poll will be open until Sunday, May 27.  A 60% majority will decide the winner, if any.

FWIW I think put all the volumes there.

Downloading the profile doesn't include the info so it deosn't upset anyone who doesn't have the whole set
For anyone who wants to add in all the volumes a the 'preview' feature will allow them to check which are the correct contents to download (and add locally as box set contents)

Does anyone actually buy Vol. 1 + box and then not acquire the additional volumes?  Even if they do, it's easier to remove them from the profile than to add them, which is what I think most people are doing.

I can understand why people want to include all the appropriate titles, but adding titles to a UPC/profile that are not associated with that UPC (and SRP) is a really bad idea IMO.  It could be a really bad precedent.  A profile should represent what comes with that UPC and NOTHING else.

Looks like yet another candidate for a field that should be private only. I always set mine myself anyway.

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Putting the DVDs in some sort of art box is a bonus extra (they are often limited in number) and in no way makes them a box set release, even a partial one.

We have already had this discussion. See the thread pointed to under the Definition clause. For our purposes, they are box sets.

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Looks like yet another candidate for a field that should be private only.

Actually, to a large extent it is.  There is no direct correlation between the values set on any given user's system and what's in the main database.  That's probably where a lot of the problem is coming from.

Actually, let me pause the current discussion and ask anyone who's reading, how much does the Box Set Contents field for complete boxsets affect you?  Are the contents that are stored in the main database of any use to you whatsoever?  If they were removed from the main database, would it have any affect on how you add and set your local profiles?

I answered that question in my earlier post but to repeat, it doesn't effect me at all because I set the box set contents myself on all of my sets.

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Will send a PM to Ken to simply declare one way or the other how this should be handled.  If needed, we can work on the specific wording of the amendment once the rule has been declared.

I think this is the best thing to do.

I suspect that there will be more changes to how box sets are handled, but Ken should have a good idea where he plans to go.  If the next update automatically download the child profiles (I hope it will) that will kill the full series option.