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| Posted: | | | | Quoting: The rules Quote: If an actor's credited name includes a nickname, highlighted by ", ’ or ( ), list it in the middle name field. For example John "JS" Smith, John ‘JS’ Smith or John (JS) Smith I can only presume that the above was intended for when the nickname appears in the middle of the name. What if the nickname is at the beginning: eg "Idaho" Lewis Croft Surely we're meant to input as "Idaho" Lewis//Croft and not what the rules imply: Lewis/"Idaho"/Croft What do you reckon? | | | Stuart | | | Last edited: by Gadgeteer |
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| Posted: | | | | "Idaho" Lewis//Croft |
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| Posted: | | | | "Idaho"/Lewis/Croft simply based on what i see On Screen, that would be how I would list it from film's credits, if someone can document Lewis as First Name fine, and theyy should do so. But based simply on what I see that is how i would, at least initially deal with it.
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 519 |
| Posted: | | | | For this specific example there is documentation that Lewis is his 1st name. But I'm more interested in the bigger picture and looking at the general way we handle thiese. IMO quotation marks around a name should automatically qualify it as a nickname.
I should also add that this particular example is an uncredited actor in The Wizard of OZ. But again, I don't want to get bogged down with this single case but to look at the general principal. | | | Stuart | | | Last edited: by Gadgeteer |
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| Posted: | | | | Stuart:
The bigger picture is exactly why I do it as I do. At this stage I am only dealing with the data as I see it On Screen. But as I said with Doc I would support "I" L//C
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| Posted: | | | | By the rules it should be L/"I"/C. From the first post in this thread; Quoting Gadgeteer: Quote: Quoting: The rules
Quote: If an actor's credited name includes a nickname, highlighted by ", ’ or ( ), list it in the middle name field. For example John "JS" Smith, John ‘JS’ Smith or John (JS) Smith
I don't see how it could be any clearer. pdf | | | Paul Francis San Juan Capistrano, CA, USA |
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| Posted: | | | | Valid point, Paul The Rules Rule Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting Gadgeteer: Quote: Quoting: The rules
Quote: If an actor's credited name includes a nickname, highlighted by ", ’ or ( ), list it in the middle name field. For example John "JS" Smith, John ‘JS’ Smith or John (JS) Smith
I can only presume that the above was intended for when the nickname appears in the middle of the name.
What if the nickname is at the beginning: eg "Idaho" Lewis Croft
Surely we're meant to input as "Idaho" Lewis//Croft and not what the rules imply: Lewis/"Idaho"/Croft
What do you reckon? A nickname doesn't have any specific "position" as such. It's a name used instead of your regular name. The rule says where to put nicknames. Why do we constantly have to redo something that has been working fine for a long time? Leave well enough alone and follow the rule. | | | John
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| Posted: | | | | What if there is a middle name as-well? eg. "Idaho" Lewis John Croft
If we are to follow the rule (which is probably the right option), and place the nickname in the middle name field, should the nickname be before or after the proper middle name? | | | Stuart | | | Last edited: by Gadgeteer |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting Gadgeteer: Quote: What if there is a middle name as-well? eg. "Idaho" Lewis John Croft
If we are to follow the rule (which is probably the right option unless it changes),and place the nickname in the middle name field, should the nickname be before or after the proper middle name? I would go with before the middle name. And don't ask me why, because it's my common sense who tells me this | | | Last edited: by pompel9 |
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| Posted: | | | | Whoopsi. double post | | | Last edited: by pompel9 |
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| Posted: | | | | If you put the names in a different order then it's not "as credited" |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting Squirrelecto: Quote: If you put the names in a different order then it's not "as credited" You could always use the 'As Credited' field | | | Stuart |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting Gadgeteer: Quote: Quoting Squirrelecto:
Quote: If you put the names in a different order then it's not "as credited"
You could always use the 'As Credited' field I'm arguing for you, not against you! |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting Squirrelecto: Quote: Quoting Gadgeteer:
Quote: Quoting Squirrelecto:
Quote: If you put the names in a different order then it's not "as credited"
You could always use the 'As Credited' field I'm arguing for you, not against you! I'm my own worst enemy. TBH I don't mind what we do as long as it's consistent? | | | Stuart |
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| Posted: | | | | Follow the Rules and you are consistent, Stuart. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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