For many years now, I have consistently seen "Isolated Score" or "Music Only Track" being listed in the "Other Features" field. Now, a contribution adding an "Isolated Score", listed on the back cover under the header "Special Features", to the "Other Features" field, was voted down by one user, noting that it's not needed as it's already listed as an audio track, so I wanted to see how the community felt about this.

The reasoning behind listing this in the "Other Features" field is, to me, the fact that it *is* in fact a bonus feature. Again, it's listed on the back cover under the header "Special Features", so when I look at the "Features" section in DVD Profiler, that's where I would expect to find it.

As far as the argument "it's already listed as an audio track" - that doesn't apply to similar features either. For instance: an audio commentary is also listed as an audio track, but that doesn't stop it from being listed under "Features" as well. A trivia track may be listed in the "Subtitles" section, but that doesn't stop it from being listed under "Features" as well. Why would this be any different?

have to agree with primetime21!

I understand T!M's reasoning, however, I have always followed the path outlined by primetime21 because I regard the "Isolated Track" as not an add-on feature, rather, it is already an integral part of the film itself.  The Audio tracks section covers this with the "Music Only" option.

Audio tracks and subtitles are an integral component of the film and are not considered to be add-on special features.

However,  "Commentary" has an Audio option in the profile as well as a check box in the Features section.  I believe this is because it is an add-on component, not integral to the film, just like all the other check boxes in the Features section.  Removal of any special features has no impact on the film.

"Other Features" is any add-on special feature not covered by the existing check boxes in the Features section.

Hope that provides some clarity on the topic.

To me, it still boils down to this: if the back cover lists it as a special feature, I expect to see it on DVD Profiler's "Features" tab.

Literally *every* conceivable feature found on the disc, or even physically accompanying the disc, gets listed in one form or another in DVD Profiler's "Features" section. Why would there be one single exception?

Of course not - but I should have expected someone to dig up a cover like that... But I do consider the presence of an "Isolated Score" as a special feature, and therefore I expect to see it on DVD Profiler's "Features" tab. Another example, then:



Each of those special features is represented in DVD Profiler's "Features" section - except one. Why would there be one exception?

Unlike things as the film's aspect ratio, or which subtitles are included, which I'm sure neither you or me, nor any other user here, would qualify as "bonus material", I *do* consider an isolated score to be an actual special feature.

Again, I've showed you a back cover - and I can show you many more, just a few examples below - where the back cover explicitly names an isolated score as part of the disc's special features. And each of those special features deserve to be represented in DVD Profiler's "Features" section. The contribution rules certainly don't make an exception to leave this out. And other features that are listed in other sections (audio commentaries, trivia tracks), are still always also included in DVD Profiler's features section. I honestly don't see why this single specific feature would be the sole exception. The only valid reason to ban it from the features section would be to say: "it's not a special feature", but not only do I beg to differ, but the covers do that as well. If the covers consistently lists this as a special feature, then why wouldn't we do the same?



The bottom line remains that if you agree that it's a part of the disc's special features, then it should be listed in DVD Profiler's features section. There's really no more to it than that. There really isn't anything else that we truly consider to be part of the special features, but which isn't listed in the features section. Even features that are already profiled elsewhere, like audio commentaries or trivia tracks, must, per the rules, always be included in the features section as well. And there is absolutely no exception in the rules that would lead us to treat a trivia subtitle track any different than an isolated score track.

There's nothing left to add, so I'm pretty much done with this topic. My approach will remain what it always was: the features section in my database will always try to reflect all of the disc's bonus materials, which means that it will include a mention of an isolated score whenever one is present.

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Even features that are already profiled elsewhere, like audio commentaries or trivia tracks, must, per the rules, always be included in the features section as well.

I don't see where it says that in the rules.  I do see where it says "Use the Other free text box for Extras that do not have a specific indicator." and as previously mentioned, this does.

There are so many DVD, Blu-rays, etc. that pulling up what one says is a special feature versus another is fruitless.  One of your examples you posted says High Definition Transfer, which was a common one when Blu-rays first came out.  So should that be an Other Feature?

It also states "If you're unsure whether a particular Extra should be listed here, it probably shouldn't be."  You seem sure that it should be, so you can put it there locally.  But in general people seem unsure, so for the official profile that seems to indicate it shouldn't be.

This isn't really a big issue for me, even if I think this type of extra is rather exclusive and coveted (I remember Alien having it on an early (the first, actually!) DVD release and it was just awesome to have Jerry Goldsmith's music for the beginning of the movie, and all.)
To me, it's enough to have the option "Music Only" among the audio tracks and that is also convenient to filter, while you can't filter free text, from e.g. Other Features.

One thing that has bothered me since we got the possibility to choose "Commentary" for the Audio field, is that you can't set in what language the commentary is. For example there exist English speaking movies but which can have e.g. French commentary and which may even not be subtitled (since the vast majority of French releases are non-English friendly).