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| Registered: October 22, 2021 |  Posts: 11 |
| | Posted: | | | | Things are getting complicated... Redfox, the maker of AnyDVD, simply vanished without a trace last month. That means that AnyDVD will no longer be updated. If you only need it for correcting the Disc ID in DVD Profiler, that may not be a big issue. But if you use it for its intended purpose - playing discs from any region, or other functions that rely on its decryption engine, you may want some other software that's being updated to cope with the latest discs. So is there a replacement for AnyDVD? Sort of - but they don't seem to work with DVD Profiler.  Xreveal looked promising. In its Status window, it displays the correct DVDID, both as old and new versions of Windows see it: Disc Information Label: <23934 Julens hjaltar disk1> Capacity: 7,92 GB (4157680 sectors) Timestamp: 2014-04-15 08:15:08 +01:00 Authoring tool: DVDID: 97C58A2E982ED034 DVDID_win10: E860E8F051493F7F But, strangely enough, with Xreveal running, DVD Profiler reads a third DVDID that has no resemblance to the two above: 85BB69235A856D78 [<23934 Julens hjaltar disk1>] So I tried DVDFab Passkey which makes DVD Profiler read yet another DVDID: 53420C3C7205C307 [<23934 Julens hjaltar disk1>] What to do now? |
| | Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 27 |
| | Posted: | | | | That's interesting...
I'm going to try different options on my main computer (Running Windows 10 22H2 v10.0.19045.4529)
Update: this is how it looks on my system;
For this test I'm removing the disc for 'The Caine Mutiny' Blu-Ray. Then re-adding disc-id without any real-time decrpyer, with AnyDVD-HD, or with Xreveal. (I'm removing the disc, saving the profile, opening the profile and re-adding the disc between each try). Here's the results;
Disc-id in DVD-Profiler (no programs/decrypters running)
E13095E11BB8D15F [THE_CAINE_MUTINY]
Disc-id in DVD-Profiler (with AnyDVD-HD)
E13095E11BB8D15F [THE_CAINE_MUTINY]
Disc-id in DVD-Profiler (with Xreveal)
E13095E11BB8D15F [THE_CAINE_MUTINY]
Existing Disc-id in the Invelos database:
E13095E11BB8D15F [THE_CAINE_MUTINY]
Hmmm, I can't replicate your findings. On my system I get the same disc-id regardless of Decryptor software. It seems pretty consistent here. | | | | Last edited: by Kishiro |
| | Registered: October 22, 2021 | | Posts: 11 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kishiro: Quote:
That's interesting...
Hmmm, I can't replicate your findings. On my system I get the same disc-id regardless of Decryptor software. It seems pretty consistent here. The problem is with DVD's, not Blu-rays. Blu-rays will always render the same Disc-ID, no matter which Windows-version or decryptor software. Try it with a DVD instead, and I'm sure you'll get results similar to mine! | | | | Last edited: by andersmo |
| | Registered: November 24, 2008 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,278 |
| | Posted: | | | | Again, if anyone needs my old copy of SlySoft AnyDVD, which is a little out of date, but reads the Disc IDs correctly, please feel free to message me and I will get it to you. |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,673 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting andersmo: Quote:
So is there a replacement for AnyDVD? Sort of - but they don't seem to work with DVD Profiler. DVDFab Passkey is the closest there is. But it costs … | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
Gunnar |
| | Registered: March 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 27 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting andersmo: Quote:
Try it with a DVD instead, and I'm sure you'll get results similar to mine! You are absolutely correct. Here's the DVD-results: Disc-id in DVD-Profiler (no programs/decrypters running) C49C850886D0DC90 [DVD_VIDEO] Disc-id in DVD-Profiler (with AnyDVD-HD v8.7.1.1) C81CD01F5AADD9F6 [DVD_VIDEO] Disc-id in DVD-Profiler (with Xreveal) 9BF5F3FB2C25547F [DVD_VIDEO] All three scenarios gives different disc-ids. That's not good....  Seems like AnyDVD-HD still is the only way to get the proper disc-id on newer Windows 10 and Windows 11 versions. Update: As you mentioned (and I can see the same behaviour on my system); Xrevel does indeed list the proper DVD-id in the status/Disc information tab (which matches AnyDVD-HD), but it will not send this id to DVD Profiler when adding the disc. If Xreveal can implement the same 'relay actual disc-id to requesting process' like AnyDVD did in a future version that would be great. (Still the best would be for Microsoft the fix the cdrom.sys driver, but I don't see that happening anytime soon..) | | | | Last edited: by Kishiro |
| | Registered: October 22, 2021 | | Posts: 11 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting GSyren: Quote:
Quoting andersmo:
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So is there a replacement for AnyDVD? Sort of - but they don't seem to work with DVD Profiler.
DVDFab Passkey is the closest there is. But it costs … Yes. Aside from its cost, Passkey would be a good replacement for AnyDVD if you're only interested in its region free and decryption abilities. But it would be of no use for correcting the DVD IDs if you're a user of DVD Profiler. As you can see from my post above, with Passkey loaded, DVD Profiler will read yet another (nonsense) DVD ID. |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,749 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have read that AnyDVD will read the IDs correctly until it doesn't work anymore. If that's not the case is there a definitive answer as to what will...read disc IDs that is? | | | | Marty - Registered July 10, 2004, User since 2002. |
| | Registered: September 6, 2008 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 124 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting andersmo: Quote:
Things are getting complicated...
Redfox, the maker of AnyDVD, simply vanished without a trace last month. That means that AnyDVD will no longer be updated. If you only need it for correcting the Disc ID in DVD Profiler, that may not be a big issue. But if you use it for its intended purpose - playing discs from any region, or other functions that rely on its decryption engine, you may want some other software that's being updated to cope with the latest discs.
So is there a replacement for AnyDVD? Sort of - but they don't seem to work with DVD Profiler.
Xreveal looked promising. In its Status window, it displays the correct DVDID, both as old and new versions of Windows see it:
Disc Information
Label: <23934 Julens hjaltar disk1>
Capacity: 7,92 GB (4157680 sectors)
Timestamp: 2014-04-15 08:15:08 +01:00
Authoring tool:
DVDID: 97C58A2E982ED034
DVDID_win10: E860E8F051493F7F
But, strangely enough, with Xreveal running, DVD Profiler reads a third DVDID that has no resemblance to the two above:
85BB69235A856D78 [<23934 Julens hjaltar disk1>]
So I tried DVDFab Passkey which makes DVD Profiler read yet another DVDID:
53420C3C7205C307 [<23934 Julens hjaltar disk1>]
What to do now? My licensed copy of AnyDVD has always given the WRONG Disc ID. The way to get the correct Disc ID every time is to use the DVD Profiler "Add by DVD Disc ID" Plug-in by DJ Doena.  See: http://www.invelos.com/Downloads.aspx?display=plugins and http://doena-journal.net/en/dvd-profiler-tools#AddByDVDDiscID | | | | Last edited: by zappman |
| | Registered: October 22, 2021 | | Posts: 11 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting zappman: Quote:
My licensed copy of AnyDVD has always given the WRONG Disc ID. That's really strange. AnyDVD has always worked for me to correct the DVD IDs in Windows 10. Which version(s) of AnyDVD have you been using? Some very old ones may not have implemented the code to correct the DVD IDs. Quote:
The way to get the correct Disc ID every time is to use the DVD Profiler "Add by DVD Disc ID" Plug-in by DJ Doena.
See:
http://www.invelos.com/Downloads.aspx?display=plugins
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http://doena-journal.net/en/dvd-profiler-tools#AddByDVDDiscID I agree that it does work in many cases, but it may be a little cumbersome. Normally, you would want your DVDs filed under their UPC/EAN-codes, not under their Disc IDs. And in many cases, you would want to add the Disc ID to an existing profile. In those cases you would have to use the plug-in to create a new "dummy" profile in the database, copy the Disc ID to your proper profile, and then delete the dummy one. However, what to do if there are more than one disc in your DVD set, for example a main feature and bonus materials on separate discs? I haven't found any way to enter the IDs of more than one disc. Perhaps you can teach us some clever trick? |
| | Registered: September 6, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 124 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting andersmo: Quote:
Quoting zappman:
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My licensed copy of AnyDVD has always given the WRONG DVD Disc ID.
That's really strange. AnyDVD has always worked for me to correct the DVD IDs in Windows 10. Which version(s) of AnyDVD have you been using? Some very old ones may not have implemented the code to correct the DVD IDs. AnyDVD HD 7.6.9.2 by RedFox.bz Quote:
The way to get the correct DVD Disc ID every time is to use the DVD Profiler "Add by DVD Disc ID" Plug-in by DJ Doena.
See:
http://www.invelos.com/Downloads.aspx?display=plugins
and
http://doena-journal.net/en/dvd-profiler-tools#AddByDVDDiscID Quote:
I agree that it does work in many cases, but it may be a little cumbersome. Normally, you would want your DVDs filed under their UPC/EAN-codes, not under their Disc IDs. For me it ALWAYS GIVES THE CORRECT Disc ID.Once I have a Profile, with the correct Disc ID, I just edit the profile to be a UPC Profile (it keeps the correct Disc ID) Quote:
And in many cases, you would want to add the Disc ID to an existing profile. In those cases you would have to use the plug-in to create a new "dummy" profile in the database, copy the Disc ID to your proper profile, and then delete the dummy one.
Yes, that is one way to do it. Quote:
However, what to do if there are more than one disc in your DVD set, for example a main feature and bonus materials on separate discs? I haven't found any way to enter the IDs of more than one disc. Perhaps you can teach us some clever trick? I did not say the "Add by DVD Disc ID" Plug-in by DJ Doena was a cure all solution for the Disc ID problem internal to DVD Profiler. I did say "it ALWAYS GIVES THE CORRECT DVD Disc ID". Maybe if enough users thank DJ Doena for his excellent plug-in, we can persuade him to add new features to the plug-in. The only way I know to edit/correct "all the DVD Disc IDs" in a multi-disc profile, is to create dummy profiles for each disc, then to use the "BulkEdit" Plug-in by mediadogg to edit the multi-disc profile, then delete the dummy profiles. I personally have never taken the time to do this. See: http://www.invelos.com/Downloads.aspx?display=plugins and https://www.mediadogg.com/id14.html | | | | Last edited: by zappman |
| | Registered: October 22, 2021 | | Posts: 11 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting zappman: Quote:
AnyDVD HD 7.6.9.2 by RedFox.bz
7.6.9.2 is a pretty old version of AnyDVD. Even though it may have been released by Redfox, which was a newly formed company at the time, it still bears the legacy of Slysoft, and must be activated using a Slysoft key. I don't remember all the details, but Redfox may have honored the Slysoft registrations for a short while to allow current users some time to purchase new licenses. Having said that, I have now installed AnyDVD 7.6.9.2 and DVD Profiler on a spare computer, and that combination works very well indeed - I get the correct DVD IDs every time. So it's a mystery to me why it doesn't work for you. Perhaps you have some other software that conflicts with AnyDVD? A word of caution, though. If you wish to use the plugin "Add by DVD Disc ID", you must disable AnyDVD, or else it will read incorrect IDs !!! That plugin is not compatible with AnyDVD. |
| | Registered: September 6, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 124 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting andersmo: Quote:
Quoting zappman:
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AnyDVD HD 7.6.9.2 by RedFox.bz
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A word of caution, though. If you wish to use the plugin "Add by DVD Disc ID", you must disable AnyDVD, or else it will read incorrect IDs !!! That plugin is not compatible with AnyDVD. This is 100% true!!! |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,749 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting andersmo: Quote:
Quoting zappman:
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AnyDVD HD 7.6.9.2 by RedFox.bz
7.6.9.2 is a pretty old version of AnyDVD. Even though it may have been released by Redfox, which was a newly formed company at the time, it still bears the legacy of Slysoft, and must be activated using a Slysoft key. I don't remember all the details, but Redfox may have honored the Slysoft registrations for a short while to allow current users some time to purchase new licenses.
Having said that, I have now installed AnyDVD 7.6.9.2 and DVD Profiler on a spare computer, and that combination works very well indeed - I get the correct DVD IDs every time.
So it's a mystery to me why it doesn't work for you. Perhaps you have some other software that conflicts with AnyDVD?
A word of caution, though. If you wish to use the plugin "Add by DVD Disc ID", you must disable AnyDVD, or else it will read incorrect IDs !!! That plugin is not compatible with AnyDVD. If you have a Slysoft (Redfox) Key, I have 8.7.0.0 and can email it to whoever wants it. | | | | Marty - Registered July 10, 2004, User since 2002. |
| | Registered: October 22, 2021 | | Posts: 11 |
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| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,749 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | | Marty - Registered July 10, 2004, User since 2002. |
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