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For films, we use the title as released in the CoO.  For TV shows, we do the same thing.  What we can't get, from the actual broadcast title, is the season indicator...mainly because there isn't one when it is broadcast.  Since we can't get it from there, getting it from the equivalent release in the CoO, makes the most sense to me.

Except that an "equivalent" may or may not exist. Or it may be ambiguous.

Clearly, we are not going to agree.  Since you are not going to change my mind, and your mind is just as set, there is no point in further discussion.  My only hope is that Ken sees this for what it is...yet another band aid...and spends his time on better things.

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My only hope is that Ken sees this for what it is...yet another band aid...and spends his time on better things.

This is what bothers me: describing this as a "band aid" all the time, on which no time should be wasted. It's not. This is a very basic problem, and it deserves to be addressed. You don't like the linking system and prefer a much bigger, major overhaul of the program - granted, one that certainly would affect this issue as well. Let me stress that I wouldn't be against such an overhaul - although I have my own thoughts on how it should be done - but there hasn't been so much as a hint that anything like that might actually be in the cards. Failing that, why must this be used to quash any other ideas for improvements or further development? Or is it simply a matter of "if I don't get what I want, nobody else should get what they want either" for you? It certainly looks like that, but it would be a pretty sad state of affairs...

Again, you are welcome to campaign for a complete new "linking system". If you come up with a method that might actually work, I'll even support it. But please don't use that request to quash any other suggestions for improvement and/or development. One idea isn't more valid than the other.

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So, for the UK release of 'Brothers and Sisters: The Complete Second Series' I would have to look to the Amercian release.  That cover is, 'Brothers and Sisters: The Complete Second Season'.  However, the dvd title differs to the credits which gives the title as simply 'Brothers & Sisters'.

Yes, the original title would be 'Brothers & Sisters' because the original work is the US TV show and not the US DVD release.  For the original season descriptor the rules do not state anything but Gerri's clarification tells us to translate the UK descriptor to US-English. Therefore the complete original title should be 'Brothers & Sisters: The Complete Second Season' according to the rules and Gerri because 'Series' translates to 'Season'.

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My only hope is that Ken sees this for what it is...yet another band aid...and spends his time on better things.

This is what bothers me: describing this as a "band aid" all the time, on which no time should be wasted. It's not. This is a very basic problem, and it deserves to be addressed. You don't like the linking system and prefer a much bigger, major overhaul of the program - granted, one that certainly would affect this issue as well. Let me stress that I wouldn't be against such an overhaul - although I have my own thoughts on how it should be done - but there hasn't been so much as a hint that anything like that might actually be in the cards. Failing that, why must this be used to quash any other ideas for improvements or further development? Or is it simply a matter of "if I don't get what I want, nobody else should get what they want either" for you? It certainly looks like that, but it would be a pretty sad state of affairs...

Again, you are welcome to campaign for a complete new "linking system". If you come up with a method that might actually work, I'll even support it. But please don't use that request to quash any other suggestions for improvement and/or development. One idea isn't more valid than the other.

I am not quashing any ideas, I am expressing my opinion on this idea...that opinion being, this is a band aid and a better solution exists...am I no longer allowed to do that?  You don't have to agree, and are welcome to a completely different opinion, but that doesn't change my opinion.

As I don't use the linking system, this isn't about "if I don't get what I want, nobody else should get what they want either," though I am not surprised you tried to characterize it that way.  It is par for the course.  This is about fixing the actual problem, not creating yet another work around.  Hal, and I believe skip, have come up with workable solutions to the linking system.  Whether or not there has been any hint that this is in the cards, is irrelevant as there is never any hint that anything is in the cards until it is...has there been any hint that a new field for season indicators is in the cards?  I didn't think so.

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Except that an "equivalent" may or may not exist. Or it may be ambiguous.

Clearly, we are not going to agree.  (...)

So, you don't agree to the fact that the foreign TV show season set may have more than one release in the CoO or none at all?

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I am not quashing any ideas, I am expressing my opinion on this idea...that opinion being, this is a band aid and a better solution exists...am I no longer allowed to do that?  You don't have to agree, and are welcome to a completely different opinion, but that doesn't change my opinion.

If I may interject here: T!M has a point when it comes to probabilites. A new linking system would be great. But it's also highly unlikely when one considers the development history of this product.

So while his band aid may be just that, it's far more likely to get implemented than a new linking system.

There we are... Always reassuring to see that there are some sensible users left! 

As Ken (the owner of the site) said... he has no plans on using IMDB as you have to pay a license fee to use their data. Sol using IMDB data is out.

which some of us are thrilled about since we prefer it that the credits are accurate to the DVD... as in cast name as well as the role they play... which IMDB seldomly is in my experience.

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Small correction: they've come up with unworkable solutions to the linking system. Which is why you'll find they won't be implemented.

It might be useful to qualify the first statement as merely your opinion, since it is nothing more.

Please tell us exactly how you know it won't be implemented.  This should be interesting!