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I would think that people who have both films would obviously notice that and vote accordingly. Besides once accepted things can be corrected. They are not written in stone.

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...  As long as ANY personal preference comes into play, and there are no standards on how to determine what the common name is, I will NOT use it.

That's funny, when I said similar things about rules, you said I was "whining" and "complaining" ...

Ken has decided, now you take the information and do what you want.

And he still hasn't done what I think will ultimately have to be done to fix the problem.  Was his latest move a help?  Time will tell.

It's doubtful that Ken really cares what you "think will ultimately have to be done to fix the problem."

Well, hello, Mr. Arrogant!  You think he has any higher opinion of YOUR opinion?  I wouldn't want to bet the farm on it, bub!

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Nonsense. You want to correct typos that might appear in Overview, you wanted to use François, despite the Credits saying Francois due to your cultural requirements,.
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... Who died and made you the god that has the magical ability to know MORE than do the people who actually made the film.

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... Who died and made you the god that has the magical ability to know MORE than do the people who actually made the film.

The only thing I said, and I persist, is that a too strict application of rules is not good, and that the voting system is sufficient to regulate abuses. I know that is not your opinion, that's not a reason to suggest I think I'm a god who knows more than people who make films.

You talk to a lot of people, you say... Perhaps too much... Or try to remember with who you discuss before attacking.

Anyway, I apologize for my last words

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I agree with the idea of a pinned thread. Sorry I missed it first time, must be in the middle of all the bickering somewhere.
We need some form of shared list of common names, cos otherwise there will be no way to create a standard.
So yes, a pinned thread with a list of agreed common names is a good idea. It's a place that everyone can check to see if a person is already listed before voting on a profile. Obviously it would need Ken & Gerri's blessing as they would either have to add names they approved or at least send them to the thread's owner so they can add the names.

I think it would be helpful to have some form of basic guidelines when picking names though. How about:
1. If a person is sometimes credited with a nickname in the middle of their name in quotes, the common name does not include it (example Robert Zajonc not Robert 'Bobby Z' Zajonc)
2. If a person is more widely known using only a nickname, then the nickname can be used as a common name (example: The Rock)
3. If a person has accents in their name, then the common name includes them even if they are more commonly credited without (this is out of simple courtesy, I'd hate it if my name was spelled wrong)
4. If a woman ges married and adds her husband's name to hers, the common name does not include it (example Jada Pinkett, not Jada Pinkett Smith)
5. If possible do not include initials in the common name where a full name is known (example: John Paul Sanderson not John P. Sanderson) However a person who only uses initials is fine (D.B. Sweeney)

Obviously a lot of this is off the top of my head, but I think it's certainly worth discussing. And please note I call them guidelines NOT rules!

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This is why part of Ken's "future" solution needs to include a list of all "linked" names in the main db when voting as well as the search function that he has mentioned in the past and alluded to again just a couple of days ago.

When accepting updates, the program needs to list all "similar" names in your local database and allow you to select which ones you wish to apply the "common name" to (think goodguy plug-in).

I think with those tools, along with a few standards around suffixes, diacritics and nicknames, that this is very workable.

Would it be wiser to wait until they are available before proceeding with entering "common names" into the main db......probably.

Unfortunately, Ken has a different perspective and this train has already left the station!

Virtual High Five.  I agree with you 100%.  As long as it is going to happen anyway, we might as well figure out a way to keep the possible mess to a minimum.