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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
Quoting hal9g:
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One possible solution would be to add all of the individual disc level child profiles for each of the individual seasons to the parent "Complete Series" parent profile rather than creating "Season" level profiles and adding them to the Complete Series profile.
That's a lot of work!
Would it not be easier to search for the individual seasons by title (as they no doubt would already exist in the db) and add them that way? Or would that not work? That would be another option, but technically it would not match what you actually bought. The artwork may or may not not be the same, or the complete series may have no unique artwork for each season. There are clearly multiple answers possible. | | | | Hal |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
Quoting hal9g:
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Ken,
I do have one question that hopefully you can advise us on.
We have instances where there is a conflict between using the disc ID of the first disc in a single season TV season for the "child profile" just for the first disc in that season, and that same disc ID is needed to profile the entire season when that season is a child of a "Complete Series" of a TV show.
Can you provide some guidance on this please?
My initial thought is that in either case, disc-level profiles should have content only from that disc. How often does this occur? Since we don't have grandchild profiles at the moment, how do you enter them currently. That is exactly what Skip and I proposed, Ken. Do a disc level profile for each disc in the set, whether its a single season, a megaset, a compilation, whatever. A lot of the TV seasons had profiles done a long time ago before the megasets came along, so those initial original profiles, just like original issue cover art, take precedence over reissues. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
Quoting hal9g:
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Ken,
I do have one question that hopefully you can advise us on.
We have instances where there is a conflict between using the disc ID of the first disc in a single season TV season for the "child profile" just for the first disc in that season, and that same disc ID is needed to profile the entire season when that season is a child of a "Complete Series" of a TV show.
Can you provide some guidance on this please?
Try presenting all the facts first.
#1. That first disc is likely one that has been there long before the mega boxset came along, therefore it takes precedence.
#2. The megaset can still be profiled using child level by doing each disc individually. If I had wanted an answer from you John, I would have addressed my question to you instead of to Ken. Entire Complete Seasons have been released without any prior releases of individual seasons, therefore the issue still need to be addressed. Firefly for example! #1 is your interpretation. I didn't ask for that. I asked specifically for Ken's. #2 is exactly what I said was a possibility if you had bothered to read the whole thread before leaping to defend your position which no one cares about. Ken has jumped in here to clear things up, so why don't you just chill out and let him do it! | | | | Hal |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Quoting Rifter:
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Quoting hal9g:
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Ken,
I do have one question that hopefully you can advise us on.
We have instances where there is a conflict between using the disc ID of the first disc in a single season TV season for the "child profile" just for the first disc in that season, and that same disc ID is needed to profile the entire season when that season is a child of a "Complete Series" of a TV show.
Can you provide some guidance on this please?
Try presenting all the facts first.
#1. That first disc is likely one that has been there long before the mega boxset came along, therefore it takes precedence.
#2. The megaset can still be profiled using child level by doing each disc individually.
If I had wanted an answer from you John, I would have addressed my question to you instead of to Ken.
Entire Complete Seasons have been released without any prior releases of individual seasons, therefore the issue still need to be addressed. Firefly for example!
#1 is your interpretation. I didn't ask for that. I asked specifically for Ken's.
#2 is exactly what I said was a possibility if you had bothered to read the whole thread before leaping to defend your position which no one cares about.
Ken has jumped in here to clear things up, so why don't you just chill out and let him do it! Right, and he can't do that if he doesn't have ALL the facts, now, can he? And if you don't supply them, then I, or somebody else, most certainly will. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
Quoting Ken Cole:
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Quoting hal9g:
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Ken,
I do have one question that hopefully you can advise us on.
We have instances where there is a conflict between using the disc ID of the first disc in a single season TV season for the "child profile" just for the first disc in that season, and that same disc ID is needed to profile the entire season when that season is a child of a "Complete Series" of a TV show.
Can you provide some guidance on this please?
My initial thought is that in either case, disc-level profiles should have content only from that disc. How often does this occur? Since we don't have grandchild profiles at the moment, how do you enter them currently.
That is exactly what Skip and I proposed, Ken. Do a disc level profile for each disc in the set, whether its a single season, a megaset, a compilation, whatever. A lot of the TV seasons had profiles done a long time ago before the megasets came along, so those initial original profiles, just like original issue cover art, take precedence over reissues. If that is the position that Invelos adopts, then additional changes need to be made to the Rules to remove the "NOTE" under TV Sets because they instruct us to do it differently. If Ken is going to fix this question, I'd like to see it corrected completely and not leave contradictory language in the Rules. That has been my position from day one! | | | | Hal |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
Right, and he can't do that if he doesn't have ALL the facts, now, can he? And if you don't supply them, then I, or somebody else, most certainly will. Well, I guess I give Ken a lot more credit than you do for understanding the program that he wrote and has probably been using a whole lot longer than any of us! I thought it was a pretty safe assumption that he would have known that child profiles could have been created long before a Complete Series got released. As as I pointed out, it isn't entirely relevant, because this doesn't always happen, so direction is needed to address when Complete Series of multiple seasons are the first release of the show. | | | | Hal |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 951 |
| | Posted: | | | | Now that Ken has added child profiles to the rules for TV sets, hopefully valid data will be added to the numerous empty child profiles that have already been added to the database. | | | Are you local?
This is a local shop the strangers you would bring would not understand us, our customs, our local ways. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,911 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Tracer: Quote:
Now that Ken has added child profiles to the rules for TV sets, hopefully valid data will be added to the numerous empty child profiles that have already been added to the database. Has been. the 4400 Seasons 1 and 2 Seinfeld Seasons 1-7 M*A*S*H Seasons 1-11 I have no free time until the weekend, so I can't do much more than I did last weekend. It's time for the others to step up to the plate so to speak. | | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,911 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Entire Complete Seasons have been released without any prior releases of individual seasons, therefore the issue still need to be addressed. Firefly for example!
Bad example, Very bad example. Firesly: The Complete Series is a 4 disc set. Why you would need the disc 1 ID for the parent that has a UPC is beyond me. | | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pplchamp: Quote:
Quoting hal9g:
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Entire Complete Seasons have been released without any prior releases of individual seasons, therefore the issue still need to be addressed. Firefly for example!
Bad example, Very bad example.
Firesly: The Complete Series is a 4 disc set. Why you would need the disc 1 ID for the parent that has a UPC is beyond me. Fine. There are others, and there will be more. | | | | Hal |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Quoting pplchamp:
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Quoting hal9g:
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Entire Complete Seasons have been released without any prior releases of individual seasons, therefore the issue still need to be addressed. Firefly for example!
Bad example, Very bad example.
Firesly: The Complete Series is a 4 disc set. Why you would need the disc 1 ID for the parent that has a UPC is beyond me.
Fine. There are others, and there will be more. Yes, I know that there will be. I own Buffy: The Chosen Collection, so I know it's not possible to profile the "parents" and "children" of that set in its current form. I'll have to live with that until a solution becomes available. I also own Alias: The Complete Collection which has the same issues. ARGH!  | | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... | | | | Last edited: by NewEnglander |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 951 |
| | Posted: | | | | Simple add each child from the various seasons to the collection. Your not going to loose any data from not having a season profile since the same data should be already in the child profiles. | | | Are you local?
This is a local shop the strangers you would bring would not understand us, our customs, our local ways. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,911 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Tracer: Quote:
Simple add each child from the various seasons to the collection. Your not going to loose any data from not having a season profile since the same data should be already in the child profiles. Yes, that's how i would do it, although, I'd like a way in the future (non-manual prifle) to profile those other profiles as well, as the discs are contained in something other than the outer box. | | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Tracer: Quote:
Simple add each child from the various seasons to the collection. Your not going to loose any data from not having a season profile since the same data should be already in the child profiles. If they come in season boxes, then there is no place to put the season cover images. Not being able to capture cover images appears to be a deal-breaker issue with Skip. | | | | Hal |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
So there's your answer!
Done deal!
thanks for the clarification, Ken. He had already said this  , Hal. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Quoting Rifter:
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Quoting hal9g:
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Ken,
I do have one question that hopefully you can advise us on.
We have instances where there is a conflict between using the disc ID of the first disc in a single season TV season for the "child profile" just for the first disc in that season, and that same disc ID is needed to profile the entire season when that season is a child of a "Complete Series" of a TV show.
Can you provide some guidance on this please?
Try presenting all the facts first.
#1. That first disc is likely one that has been there long before the mega boxset came along, therefore it takes precedence.
#2. The megaset can still be profiled using child level by doing each disc individually.
If I had wanted an answer from you John, I would have addressed my question to you instead of to Ken.
Entire Complete Seasons have been released without any prior releases of individual seasons, therefore the issue still need to be addressed. Firefly for example!
#1 is your interpretation. I didn't ask for that. I asked specifically for Ken's.
#2 is exactly what I said was a possibility if you had bothered to read the whole thread before leaping to defend your position which no one cares about.
Ken has jumped in here to clear things up, so why don't you just chill out and let him do it! How much more rude can you get. Skip  | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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