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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | James: Do you actually read what I say or just the parts you want to deal with. My local database contains NO BY data for Scott Rudin. So any such data originated outside of anything I contributed, which means it was ALREADY there. I can';t Contribute anything that is not in my local. As for your insulting remark about accusations, I know that you are the master of spin, you have engaged in it many times. But the Rules clearly state, and ignoring Graham's outlandish theory  , there are not TWO Scott Rudins therefore no BY data should be in the database, and any such data should NOT be propagated, it should be removed. that is not an accusation nor anything else, it is WHAT THE RULES SAY. BTW, James, I am not going to refer to any past disussions you and i have had. This is NOT the first time in RECENT memory that i have seen you cast either an ill-informed vote or one that just simply was inconsistent with the Rules, but your response is always consistent on those occassions i have pointed them. I only politely ask you to stop holding yourself up publicly as a follower and the interpreter of the Rules since you so often do not follow them in voting. When someone points out an error in voting or Contributing, I FIX it, I don't try and spin it or rationalize it, you yourself have seen me do this numerous times and i always will. I would not try and spin a 1 cent change in SRP, or some other change that should not be made. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
James:
Do you actually read what I say or just the parts you want to deal with. My local database contains NO BY data for Scott Rudin. So any such data originated outside of anything I contributed, which means it was ALREADY there. I can';t Contribute anything that is not in my local. Based on the evidence provided by Jon in this post, you are incorrect. He has shown definitive proof that the birth year in that profile came from you. Your denial doesn't change that fact. Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
As for your insulting remark about accusations, It is not an insult to say that you have accused people of something. You have said that Jon is angry. You can't prove that. It's an accusation on your part. You have said that Astrakan has attitude. You can't prove that. It's an accusation on your part. Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
I know that you are the master of spin, you have engaged in it many times. Insult. Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
But the Rules clearly state, and ignoring Graham's outlandish theory , there are not TWO Scott Rudins therefore no BY data should be in the database, and any such data should NOT be propagated, it should be removed. that is not an accusation nor anything else, it is WHAT THE RULES SAY. Your position on this is not what I referred to as an accusation. And what the rules say has nothing to do with the way these birth years are being propagated. I tried to get you to pull yourself out of the rules and look at where the real problem is. I hope you'll do that. You aren't going to solve it by discussing the rules. This is not a rule problem. It's a program problem. | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | James:
All Jon has shown is that I made a Contribution. There is NO BY data in my database for Scott Rudin. Would you care to explain how I contribute data that does NOT exist in MY local...I can't. I CAN elect to not change such existing data...which I not only did, but explained why i did so.<shakes head> and i won't describe why I am shaking my head. Explain to me how it is possible for me to Contribute data which does not exist within my database.
Wrong ALL facts including your spinning.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Outta here
Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
James:
All Jon has shown is that I made a Contribution. There is NO BY data in my database for Scott Rudin. Would you care to explain how I contribute data that does NOT exist in MY local...I can't. I CAN elect to not change such existing data...which I not only did, but explained why i did so.<shakes head> and i won't describe why I am shaking my head. Explain to me how it is possible for me to Contribute data which does not exist within my database.
Wrong ALL facts including your spinning.
Skip Your story and his data don't match. We can all verify his facts but none of us have access to your data. It's pointless to discuss any further. The only thing to do is to get Scott Rudin's birth year acceptance turned off by Invelos. Accusing me of spinning doesn't get you any closer to that solution either. | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | |  You can see very clearly that my entry for Mr. Rudin contains NO BY data. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
You can see very clearly that my entry for Mr. Rudin contains NO BY data. Not now it doesn't. And Scott Rudin is still an accepted birth year by Invelos. Which one of these two issues is the real problem? | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Go ahead say it. Call me a liar and watch how fast I will throw a negative on that, You are not only spinner, you are now into flame-baiting. But i dare you to put that word up there, you jerk.  Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I am so steamed at your not so subtle suggestion, you have no idea. As much as I want to I will not say what I am thinking right now. But you have completely lost what little credibility I was still willing to grant you. You want me to get REAL angry you just found the right button.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
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Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Go ahead say it. Call me a liar and watch how fast I will throw a negative on that, You are not only spinner, you are now into flame-baiting. But i dare you to put that word up there, you jerk.
Skip I didn't call you a liar. I pointed out the current status of your database does not prove what state it was in on the day you uploaded the profile. Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
I am so steamed at your not so subtle suggestion, you have no idea. As much as I want to I will not say what I am thinking right now. But you have completely lost what little credibility I was still willing to grant you. You want me to get REAL angry you just found the right button.
Skip Competing facts have to be weighed and judgments are made. The evidence provided by Jon that the birth year came from you is quite convincing. I'm not saying you are a liar. But it's quite convincing evidence. I sent this PM to Gerri: Quote:
I don't know if you've seen this thread, but it appears we have an accepted birth year for Scott Rudin in the crew table. Nobody can find a second Scott Rudin. It appears to have come from the headshots database. Is there any way you can turn off the accepted status for the birth year for Scott Rudin so that the check box will appear for contributions? I'll let you know what she says. | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan | | | | Last edited: by m.cellophane |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | You did not use the word, james but your implication was CLEAR as bell.
"Not now it doesn't."
I have news for you, bub, My database has NEVER contained such an entry.
Now would you care to apologize.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
You did not use the word, james but your implication was CLEAR as bell.
"Not now it doesn't."
I have news for you, bub, My database has NEVER contained such an entry.
Now would you care to apologize.
Skip I'm not going to apologize for something I didn't say or imply. My point was that the status of something viewed today does not prove what state that was in on January 28th. You can believe that I'm now part of your problem as well, but that's not going to fix anything. The real problem is the acceptance of Scott Rudin's birth year by Invelos. I'm going to pursue a solution in that direction. | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,029 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting m.cellophane: Quote:
Quoting skipnet50:
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James:
Do you actually read what I say or just the parts you want to deal with. My local database contains NO BY data for Scott Rudin. So any such data originated outside of anything I contributed, which means it was ALREADY there. I can';t Contribute anything that is not in my local.
Based on the evidence provided by Jon in this post, you are incorrect. He has shown definitive proof that the birth year in that profile came from you. Your denial doesn't change that fact. It seems that skipnet50 has detected and removed the BY between his contributions. He is also the only contributor for The Truman Show (7393805629761, Sweden). This profile does not contain a BY for Scott Rudin, and the contribution was made about an hour after the one for the Portugal locality. Contribution Notes for The Truman Show 5601887409730, Portugal7393805629761, Sweden | | | | Matthias |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Nice try Mathias. No such thing occurred. Anyone else care to be insulting. Now stay out of it. I am waiting figure out i can contribute data which is not in my database and never has been. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
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Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting m.cellophane: Quote:
Quoting skipnet50:
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You did not use the word, james but your implication was CLEAR as bell.
"Not now it doesn't."
I have news for you, bub, My database has NEVER contained such an entry.
Now would you care to apologize.
Skip
I'm not going to apologize for something I didn't say or imply. My point was that the status of something viewed today does not prove what state that was in on January 28th.
You can believe that I'm now part of your problem as well, but that's not going to fix anything.
The real problem is the acceptance of Scott Rudin's birth year by Invelos. I'm going to pursue a solution in that direction. So, in the meantime you can slander me, James Yo tell me how i am supposed to take your comment. I am a long way from trying to do such housekeeping chores in my database. I repeat NO such data fro Scott Rudin was EVER part of my database and for you to make the insinuation you did is most certainly tantamount to calling me a liar and i don't appreciate it one bit. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
So, in the meantime you can slander me, James Yo tell me how i am supposed to take your comment.
I am a long way from trying to do such housekeeping chores in my database. I repeat NO such data fro Scott Rudin was EVER part of my database and for you to make the insinuation you did is most certainly tantamount to calling me a liar and i don't appreciate it one bit. I'm not slandering you. I'm analyzing and comparing information. Take for example your statements in another thread that all examples for the name variant Malcom Weaver lead back to IMDb as the source data. For that example, you've looked at various data and made a conclusion. But in that situation you have far less factual information than we have here in this situation. When I look at Jon's evidence as shown in the main db and I compare it with your statements, I see a discrepancy. His evidence is more conclusive on a factual basis. That does not mean you are lying. The mistake could have been inadvertent, a boo boo, or something you had no knowledge you were doing. Regardless of how it happened, the evidence, analyzed strictly on a factual basis, is nearly beyond any reasonable doubt as to the fact that it came from your database. There's always a possibility that something went haywire in the Invelos db, but when analyzing data, one can't count on aberrations. Going by what we know, it came from you. That's not slander. That's just analysis of the facts at hand. If facts change, then the conclusion could change. Regardless, the solution to all of this is to pursue a change to the acceptance status for Scott Rudin's birth year with Invelos. I've sent a PM to Gerri. Jon has directed the attention of the screeners to this thread. Let's move in that direction; okay? | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting FUBAR: Quote:
The rules say absolutely nothing about differentiating crew. You can read whatever you want into the rules (but you personally aren't upholding the rules as they are written), but in fact, you or anyone, would be wrong if they voted No to the contribution in question. I'm confused. Scott Rudin is an actor. What does whether or not we differentiate crew have to do with a need for this actor's BY in the database? | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges.
DVD Profiler user since June 15, 2001 | | | | Last edited: by kdh1949 |
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