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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,372 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
It's not a rare case anymore, Rick and is becoming less so every week.
But that is not the basis of my argument.
Skip You just don't read anything you respond to do you.  Quoting lyonsden5: Quote:
All this thread is trying to do is tweak the rule since it is no longer a "rare" case. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 211 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting lyonsden5: Quote:
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No worries. Any submission like Skip is proposing will get voted down and declined by Invelos.
The rules state:
Note: In rare cases where multiple Complete TV Series are packaged together, the Box-set rules can be applied, treating each series like a single film - applying the above rules for it’s individual profile
All this thread is trying to do is tweak the rule since it is no longer a "rare" case. As usual however there are those who want to debate the issue again and not stay on track. Not true. There were no votes (the minority), but the contribution was approved. And basically even if it was declined it seems you are basing the decision on what size set "feels" too big to do that way. Or the fact that you consider 1 season out of 5 to be a "complete" television series. "Seinfeld: Season 4: The Complete Series." |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | We have thge Rule in place , rick, they are noithing more tha a variation on the Series. Does the Rule need to be changed..yes it needs to be REMOVED from Boxsets. But there are those like hal who don't like the results of what they argued in support of and instead of recognizing they are trying to hide behind a Rule that was developed TWO years ago for a very specific reason that had absolutely NOTHING to do with this current discussion. I don't have this problem because I USE the child profiles, so I would have the Master Case Profile, and the children would contain the Cast and Crew data, right now, IF I had a Complete series set. I could go no further than the Season Level, but once the Grandchildren are installed then we can go to disc level and the system will be much more manageable. You and others are left to reap what you have sown, which is 275 sets of data for MASH or.... I am laughing at ALL of you. I tried to explain this, Rick, but as usual the usual suspects must go opposite...so you did...now DEAL with it.  Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dano: Quote:
Quoting lyonsden5:
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Quoting Unicus69:
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No worries. Any submission like Skip is proposing will get voted down and declined by Invelos.
The rules state:
Note: In rare cases where multiple Complete TV Series are packaged together, the Box-set rules can be applied, treating each series like a single film - applying the above rules for it’s individual profile
All this thread is trying to do is tweak the rule since it is no longer a "rare" case. As usual however there are those who want to debate the issue again and not stay on track.
Not true. There were no votes (the minority), but the contribution was approved. And basically even if it was declined it seems you are basing the decision on what size set "feels" too big to do that way. Or the fact that you consider 1 season out of 5 to be a "complete" television series. "Seinfeld: Season 4: The Complete Series." EXACTLY, Dano Skip  | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,372 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dano: Quote:
Quoting lyonsden5:
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Quoting Unicus69:
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No worries. Any submission like Skip is proposing will get voted down and declined by Invelos.
The rules state:
Note: In rare cases where multiple Complete TV Series are packaged together, the Box-set rules can be applied, treating each series like a single film - applying the above rules for it’s individual profile
All this thread is trying to do is tweak the rule since it is no longer a "rare" case. As usual however there are those who want to debate the issue again and not stay on track.
Not true. There were no votes (the minority), but the contribution was approved. And basically even if it was declined it seems you are basing the decision on what size set "feels" too big to do that way. Or the fact that you consider 1 season out of 5 to be a "complete" television series. "Seinfeld: Season 4: The Complete Series."  What's not true? I did not mention any specific title nor do I know of which one you are talking about. Skip mentioned the M*A*S*H megaset. Mine hasn't been updated in a couple months. Yes, IMO "too big" needs to be defined. But that's just my opinion. If the community decides that no matter what, a complete series is treated like a box set (as the rules state) then I will follow those rules even if the complete series is only one season. I have no idea what you talking about calling a single season a complete series in a show that ran for multiple seasons |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,372 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Quoting Dano:
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Quoting lyonsden5:
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Quoting Unicus69:
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No worries. Any submission like Skip is proposing will get voted down and declined by Invelos.
The rules state:
Note: In rare cases where multiple Complete TV Series are packaged together, the Box-set rules can be applied, treating each series like a single film - applying the above rules for it’s individual profile
All this thread is trying to do is tweak the rule since it is no longer a "rare" case. As usual however there are those who want to debate the issue again and not stay on track.
Not true. There were no votes (the minority), but the contribution was approved. And basically even if it was declined it seems you are basing the decision on what size set "feels" too big to do that way. Or the fact that you consider 1 season out of 5 to be a "complete" television series. "Seinfeld: Season 4: The Complete Series."
EXACTLY, Dano
Skip I'm glad you under stand it because the part you highlighted makes absolutely no sense. I have yet to see anyone refer to a single season of a show that ran for multiple seasons as a complete series....unless your talking about the UK definition of series (which means season) The fact that it makes sense to you says a lot about your position. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,372 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
We have thge Rule in place , rick, they are noithing more tha a variation on the Series. Does the Rule need to be changed..yes it needs to be REMOVED from Boxsets. But there are those like hal who don't like the results of what they argued in support of and instead of recognizing they are trying to hide behind a Rule that was developed TWO years ago for a very specific reason that had absolutely NOTHING to do with this current discussion.
I don't have this problem because I USE the child profiles, so I would have the Master Case Profile, and the children would contain the Cast and Crew data, right now, IF I had a Complete series set. I could go no further than the Season Level, but once the Grandchildren are installed then we can go to disc level and the system will be much more manageable.
You and others are left to reap what you have sown, which is 275 sets of data for MASH or.... I am laughing at ALL of you. I tried to explain this, Rick, but as usual the usual suspects must go opposite...so you did...now DEAL with it.
Skip The rule about how to handle megasets for TV shows has NOTHING to do with the discussion of how to change the rule for handling megasets PLEASE READ THE !ST POST AND STAY ON TOPIC!!!!! This thread is all about the rule for megasets. It is you and another who keep trying to derail it to some bizarre kind of I told you so thread. To those who want to discuss who did what and why the polls were wrong ( ) please start your own thread or dig up the poll thread (if you haven't already caused it to be locked) Ken, please tell us we are close to having some type of moderation on this forum so we can keep these threads on topic.  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | My posts are ON TOPIC, SIR. A rational sense of logic would be useful. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Oh iam sorry, rick. It has to ON TOPIC by your definition of TOPIC. And I keep forgetting I have no right to voice my thoughts. All while you have the right to be snide and insulting. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,372 |
| | Posted: | | | | Once again the community has spoken.
A complete collection is like a box set parent profile (all data in children only) (47)
A complete collection should have all the data of the children in it (like the normal TV Rule) (17)
It's more complicated than that; let me explain (4)
What needs to happen now it the rule tweaked in the rules forum.
Those of you who want to continue to say whatever you feel is ON TOPIC by all means.... continue.
Those of you who want to actually do something productive about turning the community's decision (actually a clarification since it has been decided previously) into a properly worded rule I'll see you in the rules forum. |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'd like to see an automisation of the addition of child profiles before we start forcing all the data into child profiles. It's seems we're now getting to a stage where you have to add 7 profiles instead of just typing in one UPC. We're in danger of losing Profiler's ease of use. Closer to the topic, I think this time you have to get a non-Brit to write the rule. We're more used to telling the difference between Series (single) and Series (plural) over here!  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting lyonsden5: Quote:
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Oh iam sorry, rick. It has to ON TOPIC by your definition of TOPIC. And I keep forgetting I have no right to voice my thoughts.
All while you have the right to be snide and insulting.
Skip
No Skip, telling someone "I TOLD YOU SO" or "I knew this three years ago" or who "argued for Cast and Crew data for the Parent profile" is not on topic.
If you feel it is that explains a lot. You might feel it explains a lot., Rick. I feel if you actually listened for once, instaed of automatically disagreeing, we WOULD NOT have half the problems we have including THIS ONE. But that is an academic comment, because your response is direct out oif Pavlov's lab work. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
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Billy Video |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 211 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting lyonsden5: Quote:
No worries. Any submission like Skip is proposing will get voted down and declined by Invelos. The rules state: Note: In rare cases where multiple Complete TV Series are packaged together, the Box-set rules can be applied, treating each series like a single film - applying the above rules for it’s individual profile All this thread is trying to do is tweak the rule since it is no longer a "rare" case. As usual however there are those who want to debate the issue again and not stay on track. What's not true? I did not mention any specific title nor do I know of which one you are talking about. Skip mentioned the M*A*S*H megaset. Mine hasn't been updated in a couple months. Yes, IMO "too big" needs to be defined. But that's just my opinion. If the community decides that no matter what, a complete series is treated like a box set (as the rules state) then I will follow those rules even if the complete series is only one season. I have no idea what you talking about calling a single season a complete series in a show that ran for multiple seasons Sorry about the confusion, but I was referring to the Black Adder contribution I made and has been discussed in this thread, though a page or two ago. But you were quoting the multiple Complete TV Series rule (which is optional anyway) for reason not to include 275 cast/crew lisitngs in a parent, but my point is 275 epsisodes of MASH is ONE complete series, not multiple. So it does not apply reagardless. And you won't get any argument from me that there needs to be some expanded definition/clarification on this, one way or another. But for now you can only use the rules as they are written, and shouldn't vote "no" based on what they think should be the rule or what feels too big for one parent. |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dano: Quote:
Sorry about the confusion, but I was referring to the Black Adder contribution I made and has been discussed in this thread, though a page or two ago.
But you were quoting the multiple Complete TV Series rule (which is optional anyway) for reason not to include 275 cast/crew lisitngs in a parent, but my point is 275 epsisodes of MASH is ONE complete series, not multiple. So it does not apply reagardless.
And you won't get any argument from me that there needs to be some expanded definition/clarification on this, one way or another. But for now you can only use the rules as they are written, and shouldn't vote "no" based on what they think should be the rule or what feels too big for one parent.  (not laughing at you  ) I do believe you are a bit confused. You are correct, the rule says: Note: In rare cases where multiple Complete TV Series are packaged together, the Box-set rules can be applied, treating each series like a single film - applying the above rules for it’s individual profile. what you are missing is the term series = season. To many in the world there are no seasons for their TV shows. There are series. Our season 1 would be their series 1, season 2 would be series 2, etc. The rule is addressing box sets that specifically are made up of multiple seasons (AKA series). These sets are to be treated like a box set....oops - I mean can be treated | | | | Last edited: by lyonsden5 |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 445 |
| | Posted: | | | | What I don't get is why we need to treat a particular set differently just becasue one says 'Complete Series' and the other says 'Season 1'. If both sets are Digipaks with 4 discs in them and have roughly 25 episodes each then it doesn't really make sense for one to have the parent data filled in and for the other to have the parent largely empty because it's being treated as a box set.
I can see the reasoning for these megasets...but not for these smaller complete collections such as Black Adder and Fawlty Towers. | | | | Last edited: by Bodi |
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