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When do we disk ID side 2?
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorhal9g
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So, in the spirit of consistency, shouldn't we stop contributing child profiles for TV sets and use the "future" tab system and episode dividers for them as well?

That was a rhetorical question, for anyone who did not recognize it!

We have gotten burned in the past trying to make "changes" to how we do profiling based on "purported" new features that are about to be released.  I've made my feelings on this known in the past, but I will re-iterate:

Profiling today must be based on what is in the Rules today!  To do anything else is sheer lunacy.  Ken's "ideas" could change tomorrow and then we would be right where Skip doesn't want to be; a ton of profiles to fix!

And just one more point.  The fact that Skip does more profiles than any four of the rest of us (which is not true by the way), doesn't mean squat.  It is not his personal database.  More work for Skip is one of the dumbest reasons I can think of for not making the database right according to the Rules.  Skip does more profiles than anyone else because that's what Skip wants to do!  I'm sick of his constantly rubbing that in people's faces and denigrating others for not contributing what he feels are levels deserving of his respect.  In case he hasn't noticed, the EULA for this program makes ZERO requirements on the user to make contributions to the main database and furthermore, does not restrict people from expressing their opinions, concerns, gripes and bitches in the forums based on their contribution levels.  He needs to get over it!
Hal
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDan W
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Hal,

He mentioned the TV sets too.

I agree, we need to wait for the changes to the program to actually take place before we alter our method of profiling.

I arbitrarily said 4. I think the reality is that has done more than the next two users combined but even those two, individually, are above the average user by several hundred. So four is safe enough. I didn't mean to exaggerate but to pin it down to precise numbers would have taken more time than I wanted to expend on it and the point is valid. I also agree, it is a choice he has made so we don't owe him anything other than recognizing that he does more than any of the rest of us. None of us are denying that anyway.
Dan
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDan W
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Quoting m.cellophane:
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I'm sure that tabs would become the new CoO if they were introduced.

Just to address the point of disc count, I don't assign collection numbers to profiles that I don't wish to "count" (as many others do from what I've seen); therefore, my highest collection number is the figure I use for the amount of DVDs I have. The figure that the program lists as "Total DVDs" is really "Total Profiles". Pretty easy.

Quoting Mole:
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Can't say I've ever needed an excuse, Kathy, and what with having two teenage daughters...........................

As a parent of 4 teenagers, I'll drink to that!

I think the disc count argument is completely invalid.

It isn't our fault the program doesn't know a "Side A" or a "Side B" Disc ID profile from any other. It seems to me that you would just make sure they are assigned properly and tell the program how to count them. Programming is Ken's little red wagon, not ours. If proper disc count needs to be achieved, you alter the "disc count" part of the program, not rework the data base so the disc count comes out right. It just seems completely backwards to me.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantdjskyler
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As long as we allow parent and child profiles, we will never be able to get an accurate disc count.  As long as we disallow profiling bonus discs, we will never be able to get an accurate disc count.  It is a goal that can never be achieved with this program and using that as a reason to not do this defies all reason and logic.


If I wanted to enjoy something for counting, I'd collect marbles.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributormdnitoil
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Just as an endcap to this entire discussion, all the profile updates for the Abbott and Costello title in question have been declined.    The irony, of course, is that the two new profiles added to create the four children have been accepted!  Strangely, those two profiles that have been accepted look identical to the ones that have just been declined...go figure. 

I've learned my lesson and will just keep my A&C fixes to myself.  Sorry for those of you who were looking foward to these and congrats to Skip!
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
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Just as an endcap to this entire discussion, all the profile updates for the Abbott and Costello title in question have been declined.    The irony, of course, is that the two new profiles added to create the four children have been accepted!  Strangely, those two profile that have been accepted look identical to the ones that have just been declined...go figure. 

I've learned my lesson and will just keep my A&C fixes to myself.  Sorry for those of you who were looking foward to these and congrats to Skip!


Is there someplace to post data, for those interested, that has not been accepted? I've been reading a lot of debating on personal preferences, locking the info they like etc., and am curious if there isn't a way for everyone to get what they want - a win-win situation. I see "Layouts" and "Plug-ins" and "Reports" - is it possible to put this data there? If not, where might it go? I am not trying to cause problems or cause dissent, I just wonder, with the amount of technical expertice that many forum contributors have (NOT me!), how we might develop an acceptable, easy solution to address these issues. I find it difficult to believe that there is no solution.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributormdnitoil
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I'm not sure if we really want to go down that road, Kathy.  For the most part, these things work themselves out.  It's a very small number of titles where one person can gum up the works and if people don't vote, there's nothing you can do.  On this particular title there were only 4 total votes for the two child profiles in question.  When one guy votes no, rightly or wrongly, that's 25% against.  Presumably a sizable number for the screeners.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributormdnitoil
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Ah, just noticed that Ken has added Decline Reasons.  I suppose I can throw these back up one more time just to see the reason.  It'll be interesting to see if "Because Skip doesn't like it" is a stock answer.   
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Skip
ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here

Billy Video
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantdjskyler
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...the two new profiles added to create the four children have been accepted!  Strangely, those two profiles that have been accepted look identical to the ones that have just been declined...


Looks like the Coles were away for a week.  They accepted the B-profiles before they left.  Upon finding a week's worth of contributions waiting to be accepted after they got back, it looks like they just blew through them to get them out of the way. 

In the same batch, they accepted two child profiles for the double-sided / 6 movie  "Inner Sanctum Mysteries."
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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I see them as rejected, dj.. I never saw them approved. Use one profile per disc.

Skip
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Outta here

Billy Video
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I see them as rejected, dj


Of course, since you don't scan B-sides into your inventory you wouldn't see them at all.

I entered them long ago into my collection and for the longest time they were blank (profile not in database).  But the week before last actual profiles for those disc IDs suddenly downloaded from Invelos the day after mdnitoil submitted them.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Well dj, since they shot down the Side A Profile and his Master profile where he was trying to turn a TWO disc set into four, it makes sense that they would also shoot down Side B.

Skip
ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here

Billy Video
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...they shot down the Side A Profile and his Master profile where he was trying to turn a TWO disc set into four...

If that were true then why didn't they shoot down "Inner Sanctum Mysteries" for the exact same reason?    Oh yeah, you don't own that one so it got all yes votes...
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...it makes sense that they would also shoot down Side B.

They didn't turn down Side B, they accepted it.  That is what I am saying I downloaded from Invelos.  Test your Side Bs for The Best of Bud Abbott and Lou Costello Volume 1 in your DVD Profiler and you'll get detailed child profiles as written by mdnitoil.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributormdnitoil
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Like I said, I'll resubmit and hopfully get a reason this time.  It should be interesting to see how that reason gets reconciled against the fact that the side B's were accepted.  Frankly, I doubt there is a good reason.  I suspect it's just that they were overwhelmed this time around and simply kneejerked on the "no" vote.

If nothing else, after a 3 year dry spell you have half the data. 
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDan W
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I still say it's a bad idea to go away from the way we have been doing this for the past several years. Even more films will be lost to this program.
Dan
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