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I see R66m 6 as just that, a design. It looks just as much like special characters such as ? or ? (which won't even appear here as anything but a "?" but you can view them on any character map, a small 6 and a large 6) as a normal keyed 6.

In this post, from the same thread, Ken said "The botom line is that our title rule is not intended to make the title look exactly like the title on the cover (we have cover scans for that), but to portray the title shown in standard characters."

While there were some differing opinions, when combined with Geri's earlier statement, most people took that to mean if the design used standard characters, then that is how it would be entered...meaing R666m 6 would be correct.

Please understand, this is not what I prefer, just how I understand the rules and Ken's statement.  I prefer that we use the actual title so, when we can, as is the case with Men in Black, I think we should.  It's hard enough when the only title on the cover is stylish design, I just don't understand making it just as hard when there is a standard title available.

Okay, that makes far more sense then...

You are going by your opinion of what you believe the DVD title to be.

I personally see a title and a logo.

Ken said to "portray the title shown in standard characters." Right... If I see a title and a logo... why would I only put the logo? That makes absolutely no sense to me what so ever.

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You are going by your opinion of what you believe the DVD title to be.

I personally see a title and a logo.

Ken said to "portray the title shown in standard characters." Right... If I see a title and a logo... why would I only put the logo? That makes absolutely no sense to me what so ever.

And you're not going by your personal opinion in writing this?
What makes your opinion more rational and closer to the truth than my interpretation?
So what title is it that you see, when you see the MIIB cover? "Back in Black"?
Lastly, how correct is it to totally disregard the "logo" and omit it as a whole for the DVD title field? Basically ignoring it.
Maybe some of you see it as a logo, but most of us can actually consider it a title. Just as a lot of people call Terminator 2: Judgment Day "T2".

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Agreed, 100%.  The issue isn't interpreting the rule, the issue is deciding what, on the cover, constitutes the title.

Why do I get the feeling that I must consider your statements like you know so much more and reason so much better than "us others", who are just mere mortals and that we have to bow down to you? It's simply your way or the highway. At the same time as it's said that some of you can see both ways. But really, you then only see one way.
Hadn't it been for you, the titles would have been "MIB: Men in Black", "MIIB: Men in Black II" or even just "MIIB". However, every one of us would still have Men in Black, Men in Black II and so on as the original title. Perfectly per the rules as well.
But then, we have a certain elitist group here who like to dictate their own rules for some reason.
I think you do it to make you feel like a more useful person, to yourselves. Especially when you succeed in bypassing the original rules here, that we can find in that section, which clearly say "Use the title from the front cover". Or are you maybe little rebels?
I really don't care either what you think or what your opinions are, or if the screeners actually go by your decisions rather than what is rational and what the majority of people would do.
You can't even give me any perfectly clear arguments to why I should see MIIB as just a logo and nothing more, and why I must look in some complete other place for "the real DVD title".
So I see that as how most elitist people behave: facts aren't as important as getting themselves heard.
And that's why I don't listen to any of that or consider it important.

MIIB is the DVD title for Men in Black II. Period. Or should I make a poll? Very tempting.

I would put the whole title MIIB: Men in Black II. How can you justify Omitting MIIB on this title, because it's a "logo". When the same "logo" is the title for the other. Because of more text.

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Because one is nothing but the logo... so is the title of that DVD release. In the other case I don't believe that the logo is part of the title of that DVD release. No more then Mr. Jones and Mr. Smith is part of the title of that release.

Just like every release we have to look and determine what on the front cover is part of the title and what is not. And when you have to do something like that... within a large group of people you will on many occasions have different opinions on what is the correct title. Which is why we have some that use both the logo and the title... and other that use just the title when both is on the front cover.

So I need to sell the ones I have because the majority thinks it's just Men in Black II and I think it also includes MIIB. Then locate and purchase the locality that thinks the same way I do. This could be a challenge, might have to move to Scandinavia. But I don't do snow very well.

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Because one is nothing but the logo... so is the title of that DVD release. In the other case I don't believe that the logo is part of the title of that DVD release. No more then Mr. Jones and Mr. Smith is part of the title of that release.

Just like every release we have to look and determine what on the front cover is part of the title and what is not. And when you have to do something like that... within a large group of people you will on many occasions have different opinions on what is the correct title. Which is why we have some that use both the logo and the title... and other that use just the title when both is on the front cover.

So I need to sell the ones I have because the majority thinks it's just Men in Black II and I think it also includes MIIB. Then locate and purchase the locality that thinks the same way I do. This could be a challenge, might have to move to Scandinavia. But I don't do snow very well.

Really?... and what is the matter with if you disagree changing it locally and locking it? Or is there some sort of obsession going on that the online must match the local database?

I have a bunch of stuff that is different in my local locked down compared to what is in the online. It is part of the beauty of this program.

Without a clarification from Ken the only thing we can go by is what the contributors believe is the title on the front cover... and whether the voters agree with the contributors or not.

My fault, I forgot you didn't have a sense of humor. Neither way is incorrect per the rules, I just happen to own the versions that read the rule differently than I do. It is locked in my database along with every other DVD I own.

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Oh I have a sense of humor... when something is actually funny. Not so much for sarcasm which is something I personally consider nothing more then rude and unnecessary.

Now you interpreted that wrong also. I was being Facetious.

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Which I have the same exact distaste for. Rude and unnecessary to any discussion. Especially in this particular forum. And definitely not funny in the least.

Well maybe some day someone will pull that stick out for you.