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[li]Per Ken, citing the CLT is more than enough to make a change to a common name.[/li]

1) I don't agree with that interpretation of Ken's comment

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It is not necessary to document the source of the common name, outside the use of the CLT. If there is a dispute over whether the credit references the same person, documentation may be necessary.  However, in most cases it is not required.

I have notified the evaluators to disregard general demands for specific documentation of common name outside the use of the CLT.

Users who prefer more rigidly documented common names are free to enforce those rules on their local data.

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Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:

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[li]Per Ken, citing the CLT is more than enough to make a change to a common name.[/li]

1) I don't agree with that interpretation of Ken's comment

It's not an interpretation, Skip, it is what you would like to call a FACT. Here's the link and the quote:

Quoting Ken Cole:

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It is not necessary to document the source of the common name, outside the use of the CLT. If there is a dispute over whether the credit references the same person, documentation may be necessary.  However, in most cases it is not required.

I have notified the evaluators to disregard general demands for specific documentation of common name outside the use of the CLT.

Users who prefer more rigidly documented common names are free to enforce those rules on their local data.

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That may not be important to you, Tim But to some pf us it is every bit as important as linking, perhaps more so.

The "that" you are referring to, is your perceived idea that Mr. Wisher "uses one credit for acting and one for Crew." As I pointed out five minutes ago, you're basing that perception on one (count 'em) credit - so... pretty skechy to say the least. But even if we ignore that, the program is not set up to facilitate tracking this. If it's important to you, then by all means, go ahead and track it locally. For online purposes, however, his common name applies to both cast and crew.

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And corrupts data in the process.

At no point is any data being corrupted. No matter what the common name, we still track whatever name variant is seen on-screen in the "credited as" field. It's as simple as that, and everything else is just going on in your head only.

Additionally, I really think it's time you give this up. On page one, you've started with the complete misconception that we don't use common name for (uncredited) cast entry, you then proceeded to cloud matters by referring to a father with the same name (your no-vote still reads "there is also William Wisher the fathet in addition tyo William Wisher the son, who are you changing it to you") which simply isn't true (there is no father William Wisher in the database), subsequently you claimed that Kluge should have used "credited as" (while we obviously can't use "credited as" for uncredited entries), and now you've boiled down to CLT numbers. You're clearly grasping at straws...

The matter was settled on page one: Kluge's contribution is 100% correct. End of story.

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And corrupts data in the process. You might consider it sketchy, Tim. But to demand your standard, show me ONE credit were he has an acting credit as just Wisher...just one. You won't find it because it does NOT exist. this is an acting credit and it is being fundamentally changed.

Skip

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And corrupts data in the process. You might consider it sketchy, Tim. But to demand your standard, show me ONE credit were he has an acting credit as just Wisher...just one. You won't find it because it does NOT exist. this is an acting credit and it is being fundamentally changed.

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If he's credited in cast with "Jr", we have the ability to track that through use of the Credited As system for that specific credit. There's no need to reflect that credit form in other films where he's not credited at all. In fact, doing so would be incorrect since it's not his common name.

First you wanted his uncredited to conform to his writing credit for Terminator and now you want his uncredited to conform to his credited acting appearance in another film, while simultaneously trying to conform his uncredited to show there's a difference between his credited crew and credited cast appearances. This shows why user-preference reference points are a problem and why we need to use the reference point of the common name. Credited As can be used to track all of the credited variants. With uncredited, there's no variant.

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Not when it's (uncredited) as reybr noted correctly.

Just for the record: I already noted that for you on page one (twice!): you just neglected to read it.

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Not when it's (uncredited) as reybr noted correctly.

Just for the record: I already noted that for you on page one (twice!): you just neglected to read it.

So you now the ability to make such claims, Tim. Or are you breaking Forum Rules by pretending to be a representative of Invelos.?