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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
I do not consider it "parsing" to interpret the phrase "Individual profiles for each disc may be submitted if desired,..." to mean exactly what it says. Yes you are. You are parsing the rule to be a single element instead of it being part of the rules as a whole. If you want to pretend otherwise, that is fine by me. Quote:
You are the one who is trying to take clarifications spelled out in the Box Set rules section of the Rules and apply them to TV Sets. (and all profiles for that matter). Only because that clarification addresses 'normal profiles'...or did you miss the part where is says, "Add the information to the individual film’s profile as normal for a single film 2-Disc set?" Quote:
The TV set rules specifically say that you can create a profile for each disc. That is an affirmative statement. Again, we have been over this. Taken as a single statement, ignoring all the other rules, you are correct. Quote:
The fact that the Standard Rules do not address bonus discs is not an affirmative statement about creating them or not for standard releases. I do not and would not advocate creating profiles for bonus discs for standard single film releases. I simply said that technically, it is not against the "standard rules"...which it is not. Which means, anybody that chooses to start doing this, can. Whether you advocate it or not, you have opened the door that allows it. Quote:
Please explain to me how "parsing" (to use your phrase) the Rule the way it is actually written "renders them (the Rules) useless". You're starting to sound like Skip with his "your destroying the database argument". I said nothing about destroying the database. I said you are parsing the rules in a way that makes them useless. See my last statement for the 'how'. Quote:
Who exactly is harmed by adding bonus disc profiles for TV sets into the main database? I guess it is the same people who are harmed by entering an 'art director' who is credited under the heading of 'New York Unit'.  Quote:
And BTW, there are tons of them already in there, so it must be OK....again one of your previous arguments on another topic. Not quite my original argument, but twist away.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
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You are the one who is trying to take clarifications spelled out in the Box Set rules section of the Rules and apply them to TV Sets. (and all profiles for that matter).
Only because that clarification addresses 'normal profiles'...or did you miss the part where is says, "Add the information to the individual film’s profile as normal for a single film 2-Disc set?" No, I did not miss that, but you apparently you missed the fact that a TV set is not a "single film 2-Disc set.  Quote:
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The TV set rules specifically say that you can create a profile for each disc. That is an affirmative statement.
Again, we have been over this. Taken as a single statement, ignoring all the other rules, you are correct. Yes we have been over this. The only other reference in the Rules to bonus discs is under the Box Set Rules. Box Set rules do not apply to TV Sets no matter how badly you would like them to in order to support your argument. Quote:
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The fact that the Standard Rules do not address bonus discs is not an affirmative statement about creating them or not for standard releases. I do not and would not advocate creating profiles for bonus discs for standard single film releases. I simply said that technically, it is not against the "standard rules"...which it is not.
Which means, anybody that chooses to start doing this, can. Whether you advocate it or not, you have opened the door that allows it. Ahhh...something we can agree upon, except I did not open the door. Quote:
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Who exactly is harmed by adding bonus disc profiles for TV sets into the main database?
I guess it is the same people who are harmed by entering an 'art director' who is credited under the heading of 'New York Unit'. Not quite. People have a choice as to whether they want to download a child profile or not. A Unit Art Director is not equivalent to a "film" Art Director (or they would have been credited as such) and without actually reviewing the film credits, people will download this mis-information without even realizing it. Quote:
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And BTW, there are tons of them already in there, so it must be OK....again one of your previous arguments on another topic.
Not quite my original argument, but twist away. It certainly was part of your argument in the other thread that I am referring to. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
No, I did not miss that, but you apparently you missed the fact that a TV set is not a "single film 2-Disc set. Touché.  Quote:
Yes we have been over this. The only other reference in the Rules to bonus discs is under the Box Set Rules. Box Set rules do not apply to TV Sets no matter how badly you would like them to in order to support your argument. Actually, it is the only reference to bonus discs. Quote:
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Which means, anybody that chooses to start doing this, can. Whether you advocate it or not, you have opened the door that allows it.
Ahhh...something we can agree upon, except I did not open the door. You are correct, you just pushed it farther open. Quote:
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Who exactly is harmed by adding bonus disc profiles for TV sets into the main database?
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I guess it is the same people who are harmed by entering an 'art director' who is credited under the heading of 'New York Unit'.
Not quite. People have a choice as to whether they want to download a child profile or not. A Unit Art Director is not equivalent to a "film" Art Director (or they would have been credited as such) and without actually reviewing the film credits, people will download this mis-information without even realizing it. It is only your opinion that it is mis-information, but that doesn't answer the original question. That question being, who is 'harmed'? Quote:
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And BTW, there are tons of them already in there, so it must be OK....again one of your previous arguments on another topic.
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Not quite my original argument, but twist away.
It certainly was part of your argument in the other thread that I am referring to. Yes, it was part of my argument. The other part was the fact that there was a discussion in the forum, similar to the one we are having now, and the notes for the contribution specified what was being contributed and why. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think you guys need to give each other a break. I think it's perfectly clear from this discussion that the rules are not clear when it comes to bonus discs for TV series sets.
If you feel strongly enough about it, the best course of action would be to discuss whether bonus discs should be allowed and adjust the rules according to the decision to make it clear one way or another. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
I think you guys need to give each other a break. I am trying. I saw that the discussion was starting to get 'serious', so I included some smilies in the last post. Hal and I are on different pages, but I don't hold any animosity towards him for it. I know, because of my writing style, I can come off a little harsh...please, don't take it personally. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think maybe that phrase I used implied a more stern tone than I intended. My apologies if it did.
I think an American phrase that might have been more appropriate would be "cut each other some slack"? Is that the right phrase?
I mainly wanted to point out that you could both argue endlessly about the semantics of the rules, but that the underlying problem is that the rule simply isn't clear enough at the minute.
I suppose one way of saying it is that you are both arguing about how to deal with the symptons, without looking into how to deal with the disease itself. That make sense? | | | | Last edited: by northbloke |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Makes perfect sense. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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