Quoting skipnet50:

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Tim:

Go find it if you want it. I follow and we reach a stable position and data is entered according to that and then someone brings it up again and people like you take advantage of that to drag everything back off the mark again. Sorry i will not play your game, it was talked about and a consensus was reached and i have been following it along with many others.

I am fed up with people bringing up old things and the a situation gets destabilized all over again. I am not interested in editing and re-editing just because. The situation has gotten so extreme that I already have stopped making 99% of my edits, just becuase of of a select few users who don't do much and therefore don't care how much they impose on me or anyone else. I am not playing your game. It was established..so be it and i am waiting for Ken to give us more capabilities in dividers.

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This is why it has to be put in the Rules.

Any agreements/consensus reached here in the forums are totally useless if the Rules aren't updated to reflect them.

Quoting kdh1949:

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The discussion of Group Roles vs dividers represents a distinction without a difference.  The only problem I see with using dividers to separate roles (assuming there's a divider in the actual credits like in Giga's Flashdance or Varian's War examples) is the lack of a way to end the group (though a blank divider could serve that purpost).

That's what I had to do in Flashdance as the cast continued beyond the The Rocksteady Crew. In Varian's War this was not needed. As the dividers there where locations where the actors played.

Quoting RHo:

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This still does not solve the problem that the connection from the credits to the divider is lost for sorting purposes as well as for the cross linking dialogue.

I never advocated NOT including the role with the actor just so the connection wouldn't be lost.  Just using the divider, too.

This is really annoying if you just want to work on profiles, try to make coincident and accurate profiles for yourself and try to share these data with the community.

We will never get a consensus in the most points. Not in this point, not in using common names, not in chinese names, not in ...

But we need a clear guideline, but even the screeners have no central theme. I used dividers in several profiles, everybody voted "yes" and the contribution was approved. But a different contribution with the same style and (for example) RHo under the voters you will probably get a "declined"-message.

We poll every day in the forum but this never changed a bit. Because there is no consensus and there probably never will be one. We need a majority, even if this majority is 51-49 or a command from Ken or Gerry and then we need a clear rule update.
Everybody in this forum would be a great lawyer - we have the same rules, but everybody interpret them in a different way and read what he wants...

If you want to contribute the data you must read and follow the rules, have many threads with polls and posts from Ken in your bookmarks, must know some "unwritten rules" and sometimes even then it is a matter of luck...
This is really annoying.

Not yet...
But this posting has nothing to do with this contributions, this post is my general opinion. Every two oder three weeks/month the same discussion but no chance for an agreement or a solution...

Quoting RHo:

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But then you have added my name as an example.

Because you stated your point of view in this thread only a few posts before.

Just list "Pie Customer" for all 12.

Quoting TheMovieman:

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I've got an issue as well with dividers... In my contribution for the cast list of Sweeney Todd, I got a no vote for "Incorrect use of dividers". At the end of the credits there's a listing of "Pie Customers". Like the rest of the cast, this is on the left and the actors are listed to the right but other than the first one, the space to the left for the 11 other actors are blank (hope that made sense).

So, do I use a divider or just list "Pie Customer" for all 12? I'd gladly withdraw but fear that if I do it that way, I'll still get a no vote or something...

Personally I would do it with a divider titled 'Pie Customers', and then next to each actor the role 'Pie Customer'.
I'm not certain if this complies with the rule/majority, just the way I would handle it locally.