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common sense

Sorry, that is banned around here! 

In all seriousness I completely agree with you.

ATTICA! ATTICA!

I agree too. It's "The Birds", dammit. They use the term "Alfred Hitchcock's" when they want to make it sort of synonymous with his reputation. For the purposes of a database, your shelf and your sanity, it should just be "The Birds" because that's the title.

Otherwise, get working on all the other titles, you odd lot.

I hope Ken never makes a book profiler. This shiitake mushroom will get mean. "But the author's name is on the cover, so it HAS to be part of the title ..."

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This fuul of crap. It is very simple , people. It has been thisa way foir years now, and newcomerws like mdnitoil don't make it different. The other Hitchcock films should be the same, assuming the technique is the same or similar.

Well, actually this is the only release of this film in Profiler named this way.  I can only assume because it's the only version you get to vote on.   

I'm unclear, what exactly are you proposing about the other Hitchcock films?  Should we change all the names or not?

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Okay John, then we have a whole bundle of Hitchcock titles that are wrong...and have been for a really long time.  So who's gonna step up to the plate and fix them? 

Using your example, and I have to check, but do we actually call it "Margaret Mitchell's Gone With the Wind"?

**edit - I checked, and of course we don't.  What a surprise. **

Sometimes you just have to realize when we're being purposely obtuse.  This serves no practical purpose except to change the names of films that people have recognized for generations.  It's dumb on the face of it.  But let's not stop the stupidity there, we've actually started the discussion arguing that this particular movie was a special case that required the possessive.  Now, we're actually going to rip through the entire database and flumox things...all for this one silly entry.

Except that this is not the first time we've had this discussion.  We a a major brawl over using possessives with Dune, and with Sin City.  The problem is that people have a tendency to shorten things in casual use, instead of using the exact title.  If you're going to fix this one, then you should be willing to go back and redo ALL of them that are wrong.  Otherwise, it's just another example of inconsistent data entry and hypocrisy of some users.

To quote an old cliche:  If we can't find time to do it right the first time, why do we always have time to do it again?

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newcomerws like mdnitoil don't make it different. The other Hitchcock films should be the same, assuming the technique is the same or similar.

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Skip, that makes no sense. You can't dismiss mdntoil as a newcomer then freely admit other profiles have always been wrong. If it wasn't for this particular newcomer you'd think all was well. Talk about shooting the messenger ...

Wrong, jon. They have either been overlooked and need to be setup or they are correct. Hell, I have 3000 titles, do you think I can do those overnite, or that I do not make mistakes and overlook things myself. You would be wrong on both counts . I do make mistakes and overlook things and I can't process that many titles that fast I have been at it for over 2 years already. The answer remains that for The birds, the tile IS Alfred Hictchcock's The Birds, that does NOT necessarily mean that ALL should be that way, EACH and every film stands on its own, if the On Screen says Alfred Hitchcock's Whatever, then tht's what it is...this is simple. @mdnitoil instead of wondering who is going to "step up to the plate". What is wrong with YOU, you obviously have a keyboard and have no trouble typing on it, star making them right per the On Screen.

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Here's a link to an interview between Peter Bogdanovich and the great man himself from 1963 (the year The Birds was made) published by the Museum of Modern Art, New York. The film is referred to as The Birds by Hitchcock at least a half a dozen times.

http://www.moma.org/exhibitions/1999/hitchcock/interview/index.html

Bogdanovich is a renowned Hitchcock scholar and lists the title in the Filmography for Hitchcock as The Birds:

http://www.moma.org/exhibitions/1999/hitchcock/filmography.html

For some light entertainment, here is a link to a quiz on Hitchcock. If you score 15-20 you can continue to participate in this discussion. (I scored 19. Got number 15 wrong).

No cheating now.

http://www.grandtimes.com/hitchcock.html

1) Who Cares. the Rules don't say to use that kind of material now doi they, telecine

2) To everything turn, turn, turn.

This fuul of crap. It is very simple , people. It has been thisa way foir years now, and newcomerws like mdnitoil don't make it different. The other Hitchcock films should be the same, assuming the technique is the same or similar.

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I don't think that the interpretation of the rules has been correctly applied to this title. This is because of ignorance surrounding the marketing of Hitchcock's films. You can slavishly copy what's on the cover or elsewhere and claim that as your source but the film is entitled The Birds and no one outside of this forum who knows anything about Hitchcock would really debate it.

Now you haven't passed the quiz with a score of between 15 and 20 so you can't participate futher in the discussion until you have.

Secondly, I cannot really place any weight on your opinion since you only have 7 Hitchcock titles in your collection and they are all US films.  Come back and talk to me when you have some British ones.

Come back and talk to me when you are prepared to follow the Rules. Ther interpretation HAS BEEN correctly applied, i don't think you have a clue.

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MRTE = most ridiculous thread ever

It is 'The Birds'. Everything else are just some marketing gimmicks.

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Now you haven't passed the quiz with a score of between 15 and 20 so you can't participate futher in the discussion until you have.

Secondly, I cannot really place any weight on your opinion since you only have 7 Hitchcock titles in your collection and they are all US films.  Come back and talk to me when you have some British ones.

I answered all 20 questions correctly and have 35 of his 53 films. So when do I get my propeller beanie?

Edit: I also have both versions of Strangers on a Train.

There is a place for the title to be The Birds, it is called YOUR local database...NOT the Online.

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