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| Registered: March 18, 2007 |  Posts: 22 |
| | Posted: | | | | @Swissfilm: Use the titlesearch in DVDProfiler. There is for every season an alternate profile ('#1') for use in your private database. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Duncan MacLeod: Quote:
@Swissfilm: Use the titlesearch in DVDProfiler. There is for every season an alternate profile ('#1') for use in your private database. There shouldn't be... this is a misuse of alternate profiles and absolutely against the rules as they are written. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
Quoting Duncan MacLeod:
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@Swissfilm: Use the titlesearch in DVDProfiler. There is for every season an alternate profile ('#1') for use in your private database.
There shouldn't be... this is a misuse of alternate profiles and absolutely against the rules as they are written. Alternate profiles can be done "...for use in your private database". But, those profiles can not be contributed to the online database. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
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Quoting Duncan MacLeod:
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@Swissfilm: Use the titlesearch in DVDProfiler. There is for every season an alternate profile ('#1') for use in your private database.
There shouldn't be... this is a misuse of alternate profiles and absolutely against the rules as they are written.
Alternate profiles can be done "...for use in your private database".
But, those profiles can not be contributed to the online database. But he did contribute them... he told Swissfilm to do a title search for them. If they can be found by a title search then they were uploaded to the main online database. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting SwissFilm: Quote:
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That is totally up to the person that is doing the contributions. While it would be nice to be done that way... you can not tell other people what profiles to contribute when. And you can't vote against correct contributions just because they don't decide to do it in the order you prefer.
That being said.... the profiles should be done right... meaning correct language in the overview for that locality, etc. etc. If it is not then I can see voting no.
No problem, there where enough other failures to vote no, like BY Frank Welker 1945 which is forbidden. But it was anyway accepted and the BY is now in the Disc profiles, what does not bother me because I do not have them :-). edited a few episodes of the existing cast and crew that you don't want to change - names with initials not credited correctly, missing supervising producers,make up, SFX Makeup, Special Effects, VFX, costume designers. Sound Supervisors credited with a Production sound mixer. A real useable gem worth not touching  |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Posts: 22 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
There shouldn't be... this is a misuse of alternate profiles and absolutely against the rules as they are written. Quoting Kathy: Quote:
Alternate profiles can be done "...for use in your private database".
But, those profiles can not be contributed to the online database. I re-read in the rules and find following: Rules->Alternate Versions-> Quote:
Alternate Versions allow more than one entry in our online database to share the same UPC/EAN or Disc ID. Alternate Versions info page Quote:
Alternate Versions let users create more than one entry with the same UPC/EAN, or Disc ID, while keeping each entry separate in the online database. | | | | Last edited: by Duncan MacLeod |
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| Registered: August 4, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,441 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Duncan MacLeod: Quote:
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
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There shouldn't be... this is a misuse of alternate profiles and absolutely against the rules as they are written.
Quoting Kathy:
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Alternate profiles can be done "...for use in your private database".
But, those profiles can not be contributed to the online database. I re-read in the rules and find following: Rules->Alternate Versions-> Quote:
Alternate Versions allow more than one entry in our online database to share the same UPC/EAN or Disc ID. Alternate Versions info page Quote:
Alternate Versions let users create more than one entry with the same UPC/EAN, or Disc ID, while keeping each entry separate in the online database. ANDQuote:
When Not to Use
Alternate versions are not used for contributing profiles for shorts or episode-level profiles for TV series. | | | | Updated List of Accepted Birth Years |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Posts: 22 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kluge: Quote:
When Not to Use
Alternate versions are not used for contributing profiles for shorts or episode-level profiles for TV series. ok, this i could be a mistake by me, but please define "episode-level". Is a season a apisode-level defintion? | | | | Last edited: by Duncan MacLeod |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Just like a disc is not an episode level... a disc is not a season either. Using a disc for a whole season (unless a whole season is one a single disc... thinking short 5 to 6 episode seasons) is still not within any of the rules... including the ones you quote. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ken himself even clarified this in the forums way back when complete series sets first started showing up. He never posted any differently and wrote the rules the way he did to not allow them.... Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
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Ken,
I do have one question that hopefully you can advise us on.
We have instances where there is a conflict between using the disc ID of the first disc in a single season TV season for the "child profile" just for the first disc in that season, and that same disc ID is needed to profile the entire season when that season is a child of a "Complete Series" of a TV show.
Can you provide some guidance on this please?
My initial thought is that in either case, disc-level profiles should have content only from that disc. How often does this occur? Since we don't have grandchild profiles at the moment, how do you enter them currently. see what I put in bold. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Both disc level profiles of each season disc 1 is incorrect.
the first for making it a parent profile, there is no parent box set because of the lack of a UPC/EAN. The profile is a Grandparent (Akte X: Seasons 1-9 Blu-Ray Collection (The X Files)) and Children (Disc level title (The X Files)) with no box set parent profiles. You can't make something that's not there and upload it to the main DB.
The alternate profiles are incorrect and should be deleted because there are no differences between the first incorrect profiles contents and the alternate ids profiles contents, including cover scans. People voting no to a correction change is not a reason to make alt. disc ids. Personal wants that are against contribution rules should be confined to their personal DB and not contributed to the main DB. And the nit picking of the new contributions for a wrong BY or common name is petty when it is fixing 10+ incorrect or missing cast and crew per profile. |
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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
...And the nit picking of the new contributions for a wrong BY or common name is petty when it is fixing 10+ incorrect or missing cast and crew per profile. Per invelos: Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
The Invelos evaluators' standing policy is to accept profiles that add significant value. They do not have to be complete, nor even completely accurate. If you're submitting 50 painstakingly correct cast entries but get the production year wrong, the profile should be accepted and corrected later.
"No" votes are equally valid in this case, however. They allow the contributor a chance to correct their submission if they choose, and save someone the effort of the correction later on.
I've sent out a notes reiterating this policy to the evaluators. |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
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...And the nit picking of the new contributions for a wrong BY or common name is petty when it is fixing 10+ incorrect or missing cast and crew per profile.
Per invelos:
Quoting Ken Cole:
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The Invelos evaluators' standing policy is to accept profiles that add significant value. They do not have to be complete, nor even completely accurate. If you're submitting 50 painstakingly correct cast entries but get the production year wrong, the profile should be accepted and corrected later.
"No" votes are equally valid in this case, however. They allow the contributor a chance to correct their submission if they choose, and save someone the effort of the correction later on.
I've sent out a notes reiterating this policy to the evaluators. Ken's post doesn't change my opinion of it being petty. |
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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
Ken's post doesn't change my opinion of it being petty. I don't consider a voter "petty" for trying to alert the contributor that a contribution has mistake(s). |
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| Registered: March 17, 2007 | | Posts: 28 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm a little bit confused by now with all the contributions that get accepted or denied to this X-Files boxset.
The current contributions in the queue would make it one parent profile with 55 child level disc profiles if I see that correctly, without any season differentiation.
What I want is one "grand"parent profile ("Akte X Season 1-9 Box") with 9 "parents" (one for each season) with respective disc profiles of their seasons as childs (6 or 7 discs depending on season).
There is no such submission in place - is one main parent profile with 55 childs (and no separate season profiles) the correct solution, really? Or did I oversee something?
Thanks! |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting mercury666: Quote:
I'm a little bit confused by now with all the contributions that get accepted or denied to this X-Files boxset.
The current contributions in the queue would make it one parent profile with 55 child level disc profiles if I see that correctly, without any season differentiation.
What I want is one "grand"parent profile ("Akte X Season 1-9 Box") with 9 "parents" (one for each season) with respective disc profiles of their seasons as childs (6 or 7 discs depending on season).
There is no such submission in place - is one main parent profile with 55 childs (and no separate season profiles) the correct solution, really? Or did I oversee something?
Thanks! In this case it is. There are not many like this box set. But with the lack of UPC/EAN for the season packaging, we're left with a grand parent and children. at least there is different artwork for the individual season packaging. |
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