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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,715 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
I see a statement that it would be updated in the rules unless there was a discussion of disagreement with that idea.
there was continuing discussion - in disagreement and then no rules update.
I see that as changing her mind.
so I will contribute per the rules.
and you can continue to vote No, based on a statement that was never followed through with. I can't follow this interpretion. Fact is, Gerri made the promise to update the rules and did not deliver it. She did never say or do anything which allows us to insinuate her mind changing. Looking closer at this thread the ongoing discussion did not bring any new arguments or facts to change Gerris mind at all. I don't know why or when exactly Gerri disappeared, but I'd see a higher probability in the assumption she disappeared before making the change to the rules than in the assumption she changed her mind neither telling us this mind change nor the reason for it... | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,715 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
because the rule you quote is for complete season/series... a single disc can not be a complete season or series. A single disc is no more then an anthology (a collection) of episodes. which we use earliest air date of episode on the disc. I think, it is a very arbitrary assumption that a disk, which is part of season box set, is not a part of the season of the box set but an individual anthology of episodes... ... but I know, you are not really interested in the logic or the spirit behind the rules but in the simple and stupid wording of them; I won't argue with you on the fact, that the wording could be improved. | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | And I am not arguing the wording of the rules. I 100% wholeheartedly believe a single disc from a set (whether a season set, compete series set, set of volumes or best of or what ever else) is an anthology disc. No other thought has ever crossed my mind. And this thread does nothing to change my mind on it. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting AiAustria: Quote:
Quoting ateo357:
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I see a statement that it would be updated in the rules unless there was a discussion of disagreement with that idea.
there was continuing discussion - in disagreement and then no rules update.
I see that as changing her mind.
so I will contribute per the rules.
and you can continue to vote No, based on a statement that was never followed through with.
I can't follow this interpretion.
Fact is, Gerri made the promise to update the rules and did not deliver it. She did never say or do anything which allows us to insinuate her mind changing. Looking closer at this thread the ongoing discussion did not bring any new arguments or facts to change Gerris mind at all.
I don't know why or when exactly Gerri disappeared, but I'd see a higher probability in the assumption she disappeared before making the change to the rules than in the assumption she changed her mind neither telling us this mind change nor the reason for it... This I agree with completely. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,639 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
A single disc is no more then an anthology (a collection) of episodes. which we use earliest air date of episode on the disc. I can see how someone can interpret the rule that way. In my opinion, I think the rule isn't worded very clearly. I believe the original intent of that rule was for releases which included a random mixture of episodes from multiple seasons/series or "best of" sets. Such as:    If this is the case then it would have been better had the rule stated "episodes from anthology sets". Then again, how do we treat volume releases which release episodes in order but there are multiple volumes per season? |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
And I am not arguing the wording of the rules. I 100% wholeheartedly believe a single disc from a set (whether a season set, compete series set, set of volumes or best of or what ever else) is an anthology disc. No other thought has ever crossed my mind. And this thread does nothing to change my mind on it. Explains everything. Enough said. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 6,744 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'd like to pose the following question: Why?
Why the sudden urge to add the "original title" Show Name to the profile Show Name: The Complete Xth Season: Disc Y.
What's the objective behind it? Maybe if I understand that, this discussion will start to make sense to me. | | | Karsten
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote:
I'd like to pose the following question: Why?
Why the sudden urge to add the "original title" Show Name to the profile Show Name: The Complete Xth Season: Disc Y.
What's the objective behind it? Maybe if I understand that, this discussion will start to make sense to me. no sudden urge on my part. It's been over 6 years with nothing added to the rules for this issue. Just was the time for it. and in the future it will come around again, just like location/unit crew, accented names, Asian names, characters/logos in DVD titles, additional crew/Additional in headers and the other issues that have never been really resolved. |
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| Registered: October 4, 2008 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 330 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote:
I'd like to pose the following question: Why?
Why the sudden urge to add the "original title" Show Name to the profile Show Name: The Complete Xth Season: Disc Y.
What's the objective behind it? Maybe if I understand that, this discussion will start to make sense to me. I agree with this. I don't know if it's just the TV shows I own (and I own a lot and have from a long time dating back to DVD), but only recently am I starting to see people contribute this Original Title claim. I tell you, between this, the conversation on what constitutes a 'short,' and whether or not to put features from all discs of a combo pack on the main profile, there are A LOT of rules which I guess need to be clarified... |
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| Registered: September 18, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | If it was up to me, original title for any TV show with a series or season indicator would simply be the name of the show.
For example:
Title: Malcolm in the Middle: Season 1
Original title: Malcolm in the Middle
Title: My Family: Series 10
Original Title: My Family
Sort title can be used to order correctly in personal collections of course. |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote:
I'd like to pose the following question: Why?
Why the sudden urge to add the "original title" Show Name to the profile Show Name: The Complete Xth Season: Disc Y.
What's the objective behind it? Maybe if I understand that, this discussion will start to make sense to me. my example of why I want the change is Mike Kersey CLT 47 titles must be a well know actor actual 7 titles. He has been in 7 episodes from 7 different TV shows as a minor character in them. Brandon Kirsch 24 titles 2 seasons of CSI; 2 titles. 1 episode season 3 3 episodes season 4 | | | | Last edited: by ateo357 |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting samuelrichardscott: Quote:
If it was up to me, original title for any TV show with a series or season indicator would simply be the name of the show.
For example:
Title: Malcolm in the Middle: Season 1
Original title: Malcolm in the Middle
Title: My Family: Series 10
Original Title: My Family
Sort title can be used to order correctly in personal collections of course. doesn't work for Addicted2DVD but would clean up half the problems with the CLT. | | | | Last edited: by ateo357 |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,744 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
Quoting DJ Doena:
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I'd like to pose the following question: Why?
Why the sudden urge to add the "original title" Show Name to the profile Show Name: The Complete Xth Season: Disc Y.
What's the objective behind it? Maybe if I understand that, this discussion will start to make sense to me.
my example of why I want the change is
Mike Kersey CLT 47 titles
must be a well know actor
actual 7 titles.
He has been in 7 episodes from 7 different TV shows as a minor character in them. So you want to change primary data to serve a (broken) secondary tool. As long as DVDP has the option to switch the list display to Original Title, I'm against leaving out any season or disc indicators. | | | Karsten
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote:
Quoting ateo357:
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Quoting DJ Doena:
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I'd like to pose the following question: Why?
Why the sudden urge to add the "original title" Show Name to the profile Show Name: The Complete Xth Season: Disc Y.
What's the objective behind it? Maybe if I understand that, this discussion will start to make sense to me.
my example of why I want the change is
Mike Kersey CLT 47 titles
must be a well know actor
actual 7 titles.
He has been in 7 episodes from 7 different TV shows as a minor character in them.
So you want to change primary data to serve a (broken) secondary tool.
As long as DVDP has the option to switch the list display to Original Title, I'm against leaving out any season or disc indicators. I'm not changing anything. I just want to use the original title field for the original title. and we are back to the beginning - having content in the original title field that is not the original title. it's just a big circle. | | | | Last edited: by ateo357 |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,715 |
| | Posted: | | | | All said. Until we get our dictator (Ken) back or we set up any other governmental structures (responsible, responsive and authoratitive), we won't solve theese issues...  | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,639 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting AiAustria: Quote:
All said.
Until we get our dictator (Ken) back or we set up any other governmental structures (responsible, responsive and authoratitive), we won't solve theese issues...
Ken's here, he's just passively viewing the forums.  |
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