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Janus Films on The Criterion Collection - Film distributor or DVD distributor???
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorRizor
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Quoting Kathy:
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There are quite a few Criterion DVDs that state on the back cover that Janus is the exclusive Licensor.

If the cover lists Janus as the Licensor, I list them second, after The Criterion Collection (Producer) and before the Distributor.

It there is no Distributor listed on the cover and the Janus logo is present - per the rules - they can be listed after the Producer.

Edit: If you go to the Criterion website (http://www.criterion.com/about_us) , and click on Janus Films (http://www.janusfilms.com/), it states: "For over fifty years, the preeminent U.S. distributor of foreign and classic films that have collectively shaped the art of contemporary cinema."

I took a look at the 50 or so Criterions I own that have the Janus logo on them. I found one which listed them as a licensor (Walkabout) so you're correct.

As far as them being considered a distributor, I believe they're only a theatrical distributor. Criterion handles their home video distribution. And to be more accurate, Image is currently Criterion's uncredited distributor.

While I'd be in favor of not including Janus as a media company, I'll agree to not remove them unless all 3 MC spots are needed.
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Rizor,

I can't even begin to tell you how tired I am of going through The Criterion Collection DVDs/Blu-rays.

The online database is a mess because there is a lack of consistency in the contributions made for this series.

I looked though the forums to see if there might be some insight gained to clarify the issue. But, I found that there was little agreement reached.

I then went through several members collections to get an indication on how members contributed this data to see what the contributors, voters and screeners decided was the correct way to contribute this data.

Once again there was a complete lack of consistency. Some collections had the majority listing The Criterion Collection first while others listed them last and vice versa. Some collections included the Licensor, others did not. The same with Janus films.

I spent several hours rehearsing this issue - checking community members collections, re-reading the rules and discussing the situations via pms.

I even contacted the Criterion company to see if they could give us some insight into what they felt about the issue. I have not heard back from them but if I do I will post their response in the forums.

What I have done, based on all of the above, is to update my database and contribute with the following basic documentation:

"The database has The Criterion Collection listed in the MC field in both the first and last position.

Although Criterion is a distributor, they are also the publisher and should be listed first.

Relevant section of the rules:

Enter in the following order:
•Publisher
•Licensor
•Distributor"

If there are cases in which further documentation is needed - adding the Licensor or Janus Films for example - I include such documentation.

So far, the community members who own these profiles seem to be in agreement with how I have added or changed this data. The last time I looked there was not a single "no" vote on the 65+ profiles I have contributed.

There are a few things that still need to be updated/corrected - for example some profiles have abbreviated Studios - but I'm a bit tired of working on this series and will pull the DVDs and check that data at another time.
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I can imagine how difficult it must be. I started going through my Criterions for the titles that didn't get new contributions from you (I guess ones either correct as they are or perhaps you don't own). I keep noticing other little inconsistencies that need to be fixed. I should stop caring.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSrehtims
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Why don't contact them and ask them what they are?
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I got a response from Criterion's rep "Jon Mulvaney" yesterday.

"Thank you for your email. Criterion and Janus share similar missions
but focus on different markets. Criterion publishes DVDs and Blu-ray
discs and spends most of its energy on the home video market. Janus
handles theatrical and nontheatrical showings, as well as television
and cable licenses. I hope this helps!"

Somewhat nonspecific, but this seems to confirm Criterion is the publisher and Janus doesn't really do anything with DVDs and Blu-rays.
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