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If you are using the credit block for your vote on this title, you would be wrong. 99.9% - this must be the 1%, how covient for your point of view. Just another fictional tidbit of info you offer. When you can point out where in the rules is says to omit MIB, let me know.

TheMadMartian didn't say that he'd use the credit block to vote on this title. He said that the credit block would have the title of the film 99.9% of the time, and how would using the spine be any different from using the credit block (since neither is supported by the rules). If you choose to disregard the front cover and look somewhere else, the credit block is as good as anything.

So then, ultimately, it boils down to using common sense; MIB: Men in Black! "MIB" should be included because it is naturally a part of the title, while it'd be quite stupid to argue that "Mr. Jones" and "Mr. Smith" are.
We're now using the front cover to determine the DVD title. Just like the rules tell us to do.
We use the film credits and at times the credit block to determine original title. Which is something that can differ!

People here are just confusing DVD title with original title. Or how else could it be explained?

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If you are using the credit block for your vote on this title, you would be wrong. 99.9% - this must be the 1%, how covient for your point of view. Just another fictional tidbit of info you offer. When you can point out where in the rules is says to omit MIB, let me know.

I already pointed it out..."Take the title from the front cover."  With the exception of possessives, the rules do not tell us what, of all the text on the front cover, is the actual title.  We are each left to our own devices to make that determination.  In my opinion, MIB is not part of the title and, also in my opinion, the credit block supports that conclusion.  You have a different opinion, which is fine, but that doesn't mean I am wrong.

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If you are using the credit block for your vote on this title, you would be wrong. 99.9% - this must be the 1%, how covient for your point of view. Just another fictional tidbit of info you offer. When you can point out where in the rules is says to omit MIB, let me know.

TheMadMartian didn't say that he'd use the credit block to vote on this title. He said that the credit block would have the title of the film 99.9% of the time, and how would using the spine be any different from using the credit block (since neither is supported by the rules). If you choose to disregard the front cover and look somewhere else, the credit block is as good as anything.

So then, ultimately, it boils down to using common sense; MIB: Men in Black! "MIB" should be included because it is naturally a part of the title, while it'd be quite stupid to argue that "Mr. Jones" and "Mr. Smith" are.
We're now using the front cover to determine the DVD title. Just like the rules tell us to do.
We use the film credits and at times the credit block to determine original title. Which is something that can differ!

People here are just confusing DVD title with original title. Or how else could it be explained?

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That may be your common sense. But you need to understand that isn't everyone's. Personally (while I really don't care enough about the situation to worry about it)... common sense tells me that Men in Black would be the title of the DVD. That MIB is just a logo form of the title. If I was to contribute something like this... it wouldn't even occur to me to use anything more then Men in Black.

Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. -- Albert Einstein

Common sense is not so common. -- Voltaire

There is nothing more uncommon than common sense. -- Frank Lloyd Wright


I am not saying an opinion either way, but we need to watch how we play the "common sense" card.

Invoking common sense is only stating "in your opinion" since "Common Sense" is learned and based only on your own learning experiences

Just sayin'

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I agree with you completely... was actually what I was trying to point out.

Exactly, I just wanted to make your point stand out 

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If you are using the credit block for your vote on this title, you would be wrong. 99.9% - this must be the 1%, how covient for your point of view. Just another fictional tidbit of info you offer. When you can point out where in the rules is says to omit MIB, let me know.

TheMadMartian didn't say that he'd use the credit block to vote on this title. He said that the credit block would have the title of the film 99.9% of the time, and how would using the spine be any different from using the credit block (since neither is supported by the rules). If you choose to disregard the front cover and look somewhere else, the credit block is as good as anything.

I didn't say that I use the spline, I was just making an observation of what I saw with it sitting on my shelf.
Really from the distance I can only make out the MIB because Men in Black is so small.

Also you cannot disregard the front cover, that is where we are suppose to get the DVD Title. The only rules that follow are for possesives, symbols, joining words, episodes. I don't think MIB fits into any of those rules.

there are plenty of titles that use numbers, $, +, and other symbols in the titles that are not in the credit block and they are in the database DVD title.

the problem really is lack of specific rules. This results in MIB Men in Black getting no votes, MIIB Men in Black 2 being approved and MIB³ Men in Black 3 being approved on about 4 profiles. But the longer the arguing back and forth go, maybe 1 of the higher ups will take a few seconds to step in and show some leadership.

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...maybe 1 of the higher ups will take a few seconds to step in and show some leadership.

As someone told me long ago when I made a similar query..."Don't hold your breath".

I have several covers which display both an abbreviation and a full title on the cover, such as:
A.I. Artificial Intelligence
E.T. the Extra-terrestrial
It seems to me that those abbreviations are part of the title and should be entered in the title field. I don't see MiB Men in Black as any different in this respect.

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...maybe 1 of the higher ups will take a few seconds to step in and show some leadership.

As someone told me long ago when I made a similar query..."Don't hold your breath".

But the stupid egg showing up in the invelos title gets an immediate response. Nice to see Ken has his priorities in line. Stupid egg = immediate response. 4 page debate in which a two second answer can resolved = Ignored. Un f'ing believable and yet so typical.