Quoting Kinoniki:

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I've found a few things to watch out for: Sometimes BDInfo does not list audio tracks in the same order as PowerDVD. Unfortunately this means we can't take the info directly from this program without also checking with some other software, or stand-alone player. (I think PowerDVD gets it right though.)
Sometimes it also lists hidden audio tracks, like Japanese, that are not accessible from the normal disc menu or even PowerDVD. However, it preceeds these entries with an asterisk. But it also lists certain commentary tracks as hidden, although they can be accessed both from the menu and PowerDVD...

Example from There's Something About Mary (EU/Scandinavian release):

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DTS-HD Master Audio            English        0 kbps          5.1 / 48 kHz / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS Audio                      French          768 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 16-bit
DTS Audio                      German          768 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 16-bit
* DTS Audio                    Japanese        768 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 16-bit
Dolby Digital Audio            English        224 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / DN -4dB
* Dolby Digital Audio          English        224 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / DN -4dB
* Dolby Digital Audio          English        224 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / DN -4dB

So it's not a perfect tool, but I'll keep it around to check on those stereo/surround tracks.

Yep, it lists hidden audio tracks and sometimes has a different order of the audio tracks, but that is not what I use the tool for

I use it only for the Surround Flag and in this apprtment it does a hell of a job

Donnie

I have checked The Descent, which DarklyNoon has also checked. DarklyNoon shows surround. I don't. It's now confirmed I can't see this info. Please be careful about removing data based on this tool.

Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:

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I have checked The Descent, which DarklyNoon has also checked. DarklyNoon shows surround. I don't. It's now confirmed I can't see this info. Please be careful about removing data based on this tool.

Sorry Ace, I told you you need to remove the copy protection, this mite be one reason and the other reason was given by katatonia, there are two different encodes of The Descent released.

Donnie

Well, I told you there'd be surprises. 

This thing is not big enough to get worked up over. The difference between dolby surround and stereo is insignificant and I'd be happy if the software just ignored it since it's so elusive to document.

Quoting DarklyNoon:

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[...] how to use this tool correctly.

Is there any way to use this tool incorrectly? I'm just asking, because I haven't found a single Surround-encoded track with it yet... Maybe I've just checked the wrong ones and the next ten ones will turn out to be Surround, but I can't imagine how I could use the tool incorrectly. It seems pretty straightforward: scan the disc, and then look at the results. Right?

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Quoting DarklyNoon:

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[...] how to use this tool correctly.

Is there any way to use this tool incorrectly? I'm just asking, because I haven't found a single Surround-encoded track with it yet... Maybe I've just checked the wrong ones and the next ten ones will turn out to be Surround, but I can't imagine how I could use the tool incorrectly. It seems pretty straightforward: scan the disc, and then look at the results. Right?

The tool STATES that the copy protection has to be removed, I do that cuz I have ANY DVD HD running all the time.
Besides that I cannot think of any mistakes you can make.

So far, of all the (cover labeled Commentary tracks DD 2.0) that I checked, I would say 60 % are Dolby Surround and 40 % are plain Stereo.

I will not post a screenshot of the results in my contributions, this would be insane. I am also not asking for screenshots of the film credits if people entering them.

Here are some titles that have a Surround Commentary track: country states the release I got, those are all Blu-rays

Batman Anthology: all four films UK
Boondock Saints 2: USA
Black hawk Down UK
Cabin Fever USA
Chuck Season 1 and 2 USA
Cloudy with a chance of meatballs USA
Distric 9 USA
Doomsday Unrated USA

If you have one of those and it shows you NOT the surround flag, I am truly out of words
Be sure to have the copy protection removed (tho I am not sure at all if this has an impact, I will test this when I am back home from work)

Donnie

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Quoting Kinoniki:

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Well, I told you there'd be surprises. 

Well,

there is no surprise with this tool, it is just the users that cannot handle it correctly, and this is no surprise to me!!!!!!

More then likely Ace has the original release which had the bad encoding which for the on-line DB is the one to use per the rules.

Tom