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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Smee has it dead on.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,479 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote: We have the 'Original Title' field for the theatrical title. Original title field is not the theatrical title. It is the title in the country of origin. US theatrical title : "Amélie" or "La vie en rose" Original title :"Le fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain", or "La môme" French theatrical title : "Le crime était presque parfait" Original title : "Dial M for Murder" Contribution rules: "The Original Title field will contain the original title for the main feature in the country of origin. " | | | Images from movies | | | Last edited: by surfeur51 |
| | Corne | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
Registered: April 5, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote: Quoting Unicus69:
Quote: We have the 'Original Title' field for the theatrical title.
Original title field is not the theatrical title. It is the title in the country of origin.
US theatrical title : "Amélie" or "La vie en rose" Original title :"Le fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain", or "La môme"
French theatrical title : "Le crime était presque parfait" Original title : "Dial M for Murder"
Contribution rules: "The Original Title field will contain the original title for the main feature in the country of origin. " Read the rules again! Contribution Rules state as well: Modified Titles: The Original Title field will contain the original theatrical title, while the Title field will contain the title of the DVD release. For instance, for the Special Edition rerelease of There's Something About Mary: * Title: There's Something More About Mary * Original Title: There's Something About Mary | | | Cor | | | Last edited: by Corne |
| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,479 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Corne: Quote: Quoting surfeur51:
Quote: Quoting Unicus69:
Quote: We have the 'Original Title' field for the theatrical title.
Original title field is not the theatrical title. It is the title in the country of origin.
US theatrical title : "Amélie" or "La vie en rose" Original title :"Le fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain", or "La môme"
French theatrical title : "Le crime était presque parfait" Original title : "Dial M for Murder"
Contribution rules: "The Original Title field will contain the original title for the main feature in the country of origin. "
Read the rules again!
Contribution Rules state as well: Modified Titles: The Original Title field will contain the original theatrical title, while the Title field will contain the title of the DVD release. For instance, for the Special Edition rerelease of There's Something About Mary:
* Title: There's Something More About Mary * Original Title: There's Something About Mary I knew that. But, in my collection, the rule I quoted concerns about 70% of titles. For 29,5%, original title = theatrical title, and the rule you quote concerns a very little 0.5%... People here love to search exceptions and twist them in all manners... | | | Images from movies |
| | Corne | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
Registered: April 5, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote: Quoting Corne:
Quote: Quoting surfeur51:
Quote: Quoting Unicus69:
Quote: We have the 'Original Title' field for the theatrical title.
Original title field is not the theatrical title. It is the title in the country of origin.
US theatrical title : "Amélie" or "La vie en rose" Original title :"Le fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain", or "La môme"
French theatrical title : "Le crime était presque parfait" Original title : "Dial M for Murder"
Contribution rules: "The Original Title field will contain the original title for the main feature in the country of origin. "
Read the rules again!
Contribution Rules state as well: Modified Titles: The Original Title field will contain the original theatrical title, while the Title field will contain the title of the DVD release. For instance, for the Special Edition rerelease of There's Something About Mary:
* Title: There's Something More About Mary * Original Title: There's Something About Mary
I knew that. But, in my collection, the rule I quoted concerns about 70% of titles. For 29,5%, original title = theatrical title, and the rule you quote concerns a very little 0.5%...
People here love to search exceptions and twist them in all manners... No that's what you are doing right now. Because in YOUR collection it's little than 0.5%, that doesn't mean it's also the same for other contributor's collections. For instance, in my collection it's the other way around. In Holland the DVD titles are most of the time directly taken from the movie credits and not translated into the local language like the French, German etc. do. So I don't twist the rules, I just mention the facts, and that are the rules whether you like it or not. | | | Cor |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Bangarang!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Corne: Quote: Quoting surfeur51:
Quote: Quoting Corne:
Quote: Quoting surfeur51:
Quote: Quoting Unicus69:
Quote: We have the 'Original Title' field for the theatrical title.
Original title field is not the theatrical title. It is the title in the country of origin.
US theatrical title : "Amélie" or "La vie en rose" Original title :"Le fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain", or "La môme"
French theatrical title : "Le crime était presque parfait" Original title : "Dial M for Murder"
Contribution rules: "The Original Title field will contain the original title for the main feature in the country of origin. "
Read the rules again!
Contribution Rules state as well: Modified Titles: The Original Title field will contain the original theatrical title, while the Title field will contain the title of the DVD release. For instance, for the Special Edition rerelease of There's Something About Mary:
* Title: There's Something More About Mary * Original Title: There's Something About Mary
I knew that. But, in my collection, the rule I quoted concerns about 70% of titles. For 29,5%, original title = theatrical title, and the rule you quote concerns a very little 0.5%...
People here love to search exceptions and twist them in all manners...
No that's what you are doing right now. Because in YOUR collection it's little than 0.5%, that doesn't mean it's also the same for other contributor's collections. For instance, in my collection it's the other way around. In Holland the DVD titles are most of the time directly taken from the movie credits and not translated into the local language like the French, German etc. do. So I don't twist the rules, I just mention the facts, and that are the rules whether you like it or not. I agree... whether people like it or don't there is 2 separate rules for using the field for 2 separate occasions. Neither one more important then the other. | | | Pete |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote: Quoting Unicus69:
Quote: We have the 'Original Title' field for the theatrical title.
Original title field is not the theatrical title. It is the title in the country of origin. Wouldn't the 'original title' be the theatrical title? I mean, when a film is released, that is the first title it is shown under. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,479 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Corne: Quote:
No that's what you are doing right now. Because in YOUR collection it's little than 0.5%, that doesn't mean it's also the same for other contributor's collections. For instance, in my collection it's the other way around. In Holland the DVD titles are most of the time directly taken from the movie credits and not translated into the local language like the French, German etc. do. So I don't twist the rules, I just mention the facts, and that are the rules whether you like it or not. I got a look a your collection. You are quite always in the case "dvd title = original theatrical title" and quite never in the case of modified title rule that you quoted. As would say somebody....Bangarang!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!... | | | Images from movies |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Someone seems to be confusing local data with the Rules for CONTRIBUTIONS. He can do whatever he wants locally. Don't try to use HIS data against him. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Corne | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
Registered: April 5, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote: Quoting Corne:
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No that's what you are doing right now. Because in YOUR collection it's little than 0.5%, that doesn't mean it's also the same for other contributor's collections. For instance, in my collection it's the other way around. In Holland the DVD titles are most of the time directly taken from the movie credits and not translated into the local language like the French, German etc. do. So I don't twist the rules, I just mention the facts, and that are the rules whether you like it or not.
I got a look a your collection. You are quite always in the case "dvd title = original theatrical title" and quite never in the case of modified title rule that you quoted.
As would say somebody....Bangarang!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!... hahaha! uh you forgot that the online collection only shows the DVD title fields and not the original title fields. So only if you could see into my local data you could make a statement like that. But you simply can't Bangarang!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | | | Cor |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote: We have the 'Original Title' field for the theatrical title. Except that the "Original Title" field is currently a multi-purpose field, not used just for the "theatrical title". That's why we need a new field for DVD Title (as well as Original Title and Film Credits Title). | | | Hal | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
| | Corne | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
Registered: April 5, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote: Quoting Unicus69:
Quote: We have the 'Original Title' field for the theatrical title.
Except that the "Original Title" filed is currently a multi-purpose field, not used just for the "theatrical title".
That's why we need a new field for DVD Title (as well as Original Title and Film Credits Title). That would solve a lot of problems. | | | Cor |
| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,479 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Corne: Quote:
hahaha! uh you forgot that the online collection only shows the DVD title fields and not the original title fields. So only if you could see into my local data you could make a statement like that. But you simply can't
Bangarang!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can easily guess what is the original title of : 2001 : A Space Odyssey Alien Aliens Alien 3 Alien Ressurrection American Beauty Blade Blue Velvet Bonnie and Clyde ... and several hundreds other title of the same kind... | | | Images from movies |
| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote: Quoting Unicus69:
Quote: We have the 'Original Title' field for the theatrical title.
Except that the "Original Title" field is currently a multi-purpose field, not used just for the "theatrical title".
That's why we need a new field for DVD Title (as well as Original Title and Film Credits Title). I agree with that suggestion. For example, a hypothetical situation: the German DVD is called "Spiel mir das Lied vom Tod", however it contains a print which has the title in english "Once Upon a Time in the West", but the film's original title in it's CoO is "C'era una volta il West" - which one do we put in Original Title as the rules call for both titles? |
| | Corne | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
Registered: April 5, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote: Quoting hal9g:
Quote: Quoting Unicus69:
Quote: We have the 'Original Title' field for the theatrical title.
Except that the "Original Title" field is currently a multi-purpose field, not used just for the "theatrical title".
That's why we need a new field for DVD Title (as well as Original Title and Film Credits Title). I agree with that suggestion. For example, a hypothetical situation: the German DVD is called "Spiel mir das Lied vom Tod", however it contains a print which has the title in english "Once Upon a Time in the West", but the film's original title in it's CoO is "C'era una volta il West" - which one do we put in Original Title as the rules call for both titles? A great example of why there should be a field for the Original Title and a field for Film Credits Title. | | | Cor |
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