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BSG: Sharon Valerii
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When the very first post has many major spoilers in it, why did you people expect the following ones wouldnt? If we discuss how a character should be credited, why on earth did you think the OP ment only the seasons you have seen?

I dont thing theres anything wrong to add spoiler warnings, or to wish people would add. But if you got spoiled by this topic, you had it coming. And i dont think a mere spoiler warning, would have saved you from being spoiled.
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When the very first post has many major spoilers in it, why did you people expect the following ones wouldnt? If we discuss how a character should be credited, why on earth did you think the OP ment only the seasons you have seen?

I dont thing theres anything wrong to add spoiler warnings, or to wish people would add. But if you got spoiled by this topic, you had it coming. And i dont think a mere spoiler warning, would have saved you from being spoiled.


The very first post was the following:-

I've noticed, that Sharon Valerii aks Grace Park is credited wrong most of the second season. She is still credited as Sharon "Boomer" Valerii, but that specific Cylon was shot and transferred to Caprica. The Sharon we see most of the second season will be later known as Sharon "Athena" Agathon.

Since her role name is not credited, would you agree that it's probably best to change her role name to Sharon Valerii and only refer to Boomer when we actially see Boomer?
And what should be done if both Sharons are in the same Episode like in season 3? Should both be credited seperately? Same for Caprica Six...


This was not a major spoiler and only refers to season 2.

There was no suggestion that this thread would then display all the photos of all the known cylons.

In large images.. and with absolutley no relevance to how to credit Grace Park..

(note I'm not pointing the finger at you)
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Speaking of spoilers, I have only bought BSG Season 3 (as it was on sale but earlier seasons weren't).  Should I get and watch the previous seasons before Season 3?  Is the timeline that important in BSG that watching seasons out of order would ruin the enjoyment of it?
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Speaking of spoilers, I have only bought BSG Season 3 (as it was on sale but earlier seasons weren't).  Should I get and watch the previous seasons before Season 3?  Is the timeline that important in BSG that watching seasons out of order would ruin the enjoyment of it?


Yes, I would say you should watch them in order.  This is a 'serialized' series...similar to Babylon 5.  While some episodes are self contained, much of the story carries over from one episode to the next.
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Speaking of spoilers, I have only bought BSG Season 3 (as it was on sale but earlier seasons weren't).  Should I get and watch the previous seasons before Season 3?  Is the timeline that important in BSG that watching seasons out of order would ruin the enjoyment of it?

You should definitvle watch the first seasons first. It's a story-arc-show, not a single-episode-show.

I'd presume you'd have a hard time to understand what's going on.

Or we could spoil you. 
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Or we could spoil you. 

In recent years my memory isn't as good as it once was, so I'm starting to not worry about reading spoilers -- as I probably won't remember them when I actually get around to watching the show.

Unless it's something like the final scene of the original, De Palma-helmed Carrie!
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When the very first post has many major spoilers in it, why did you people expect the following ones wouldnt? If we discuss how a character should be credited, why on earth did you think the OP ment only the seasons you have seen?

I dont thing theres anything wrong to add spoiler warnings, or to wish people would add. But if you got spoiled by this topic, you had it coming. And i dont think a mere spoiler warning, would have saved you from being spoiled.

This was not a major spoiler and only refers to season 2.

There was no suggestion that this thread would then display all the photos of all the known cylons.

In large images.. and with absolutley no relevance to how to credit Grace Park..

(note I'm not pointing the finger at you)


Boomer spoiler to me at least is bigger then the "final five". How Boomer is credited effects how the "Final Five" are credited. So to me it wasnt offtopic. PvF also makes the question related to the third season. That was only the first post, the following posts continue to "build up" to the 3rd season final revelation in detail.

All i'm saying is, if i hadnt seen the released seasons, i wouldnt have even opened this topic. And if i would have opened, then at least the 5th reply would have stopped me from reading.

(not pointing the finger at you either )
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I don't know about BSG. But if I had to get role names from some "other" source because the credits are without role names, I would be careful to make them spoiler free. Therefore I would avoid entering names which should not be known at the begin of the season.
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Spoiler information contained in role names is one of the reasons some of us feel so strongly about NOT using IMDb data.

TV producers tend to provide less information about a character when he/she first appears in the credits than after the character's been around a while.  The first credit might be something like "college guy" then later "John" then later still "John Smith" as more is known about the character in the program.  It makes it tough when we're profiling a whole season we haven't watched, but the producers usually avoid giving too much away about someone before it's needed to further the plot.
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I really think this topic went off track. The issue is Grace Park's role as Sharon and not spoilers.

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The very first post was the following:-

I've noticed, that Sharon Valerii aks Grace Park is credited wrong most of the second season. She is still credited as Sharon "Boomer" Valerii, but that specific Cylon was shot and transferred to Caprica. The Sharon we see most of the second season will be later known as Sharon "Athena" Agathon.

Since her role name is not credited, would you agree that it's probably best to change her role name to Sharon Valerii and only refer to Boomer when we actially see Boomer?
And what should be done if both Sharons are in the same Episode like in season 3? Should both be credited seperately? Same for Caprica Six...

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I really think this topic went off track. The issue is Grace Park's role as Sharon and not spoilers.

May I ask why you resurrected this topic at all?
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