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Voting yes for bad data
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDarxon
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Registered: March 14, 2007
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Everybody who says, bad data is bad data, should think about the consequences of your no votes. Let's assume that you vote no on a contribution with some valid new data but one error which has been there before is not corrected. The contributor refuses to correct the error for whatever reason. As a consequence the contribution is declined. The result is a profile which still features the error but is missing some valid data.


Well, IMO someone who only submits partial corrections to a single field (partial corrections to a whole profile are a different matter) does not follow the rules for profiling to the necessary extent.

Regarding the overview example: the rules state that the overview shall match the back-cover exactly. If for whatever reason there's a wrong overview in the online db, if I submit a correction I'm oblioged to check the data I submit against the overview on the back-cover. If I actually do that, I should find all mistakes if I do a thorough job.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorRHo
Registered: March 13, 2007
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Everybody who says, bad data is bad data, should think about the consequences of your no votes. Let's assume that you vote no on a contribution with some valid new data but one error which has been there before is not corrected. The contributor refuses to correct the error for whatever reason. As a consequence the contribution is declined. The result is a profile which still features the error but is missing some valid data.


Well, IMO someone who only submits partial corrections does not follow the rules for profiling to the necessary extent.

Regarding the overview example: the rules state that the overview shall match the back-cover exactly. If for whatever reason there's a wrong overview in the online db, if I submit a correction I'm oblioged to check the data I submit against the overview on the back-cover. If I actually do that, I should find all mistakes if I do a thorough job.

Well, I do not say that you are wrong. I just say, that you have to consider the consequences. Namely, if the contributor refuses to correct the existing error and the contribution gets declined, you are not only missing the correct part of the contribution but also still have the error which has been there in the first place.

IMO a more sensible approach would be to vote yes and point out the error in the note. If the contributor corrects the error everything is fine. If not, you can contribute the fix yourself after the release of his contribution. But then that is my approach only.

A completely different situation is of course when the contributor introduces a new error no matter how small it is. In this case I will vote no.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributormwkirchner
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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(edited) ...The contributor refuses to correct the error for whatever reason.


If they feel like that after taking the time to make a contribution ... that is sad.

I have been in this position a few times and when I see that I have a mistake of whatever caliper ... I take the time to correct that error and resubmit the contribution.

Someone who does not do that is lazy in my eyes and if they feel that once they upload the corrections they made and do not feel they should correct an error that is found should just leave it to those of us who DO care about the database and WILL go back in to fix it.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
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It is very easy to overlook a mistake in the original contribution...trust me I know! I have often received a private message alerting me to the fact that I missed something.

I seldom check my contributions if I see all "yes" votes but if I see a "no' vote I check to see what I might have done wrong or missed.

If I don't receive a private message first I would prefer a "no" vote so that I can correct any mistakes I might have made.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributoroleops
Registered: March 19, 2007
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Some thoughts..

If a contributor copy an already approved profile, sees some errors and changes this and contribute this, and afterwords changes the UPC/EAN and other mismatch to the new profile...

And then gets a no wote for overseen errors in the original contribution, it would not been changed as the profile is not in the local base anymore!  the errors still remains.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorRHo
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(edited) ...The contributor refuses to correct the error for whatever reason.


If they feel like that after taking the time to make a contribution ... that is sad.

He may or may not have his own reasons for not correcting an error. Maybe in his eyes it is not an error at all. Maybe it has been even argued about it in the forum.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributormwkirchner
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(edited) ...The contributor refuses to correct the error for whatever reason.


If they feel like that after taking the time to make a contribution ... that is sad.

He may or may not have his own reasons for not correcting an error. Maybe in his eyes it is not an error at all. Maybe it has been even argued about it in the forum.


OK ... I will give you that ... BUT ... how about contributions that have maybe 20 votes and 18 are NOs ... and it IS something that IS cut & dry ... and it still is not addressed?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantWhite Pongo, Jr.
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He may or may not have his own reasons for not correcting an error. Maybe in his eyes it is not an error at all. Maybe it has been even argued about it in the forum.


True. Sometimes it's a deliberate choice: submit separately the arguable part.
-- Enry
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantWhite Pongo, Jr.
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OK ... I will give you that ... BUT ... how about contributions that have maybe 20 votes and 18 are NOs ... and it IS something that IS cut & dry ... and it still is not addressed?


One might wonder why those 18 people couldn't address those cut&dry issues themselves. 
-- Enry
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