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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorRHo
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Unless the second UPC is sold on its own as well...
BTW I agree that a child profile for the gift set is unnecessary. If the slipcase is sold on its own with a different EAN, it can be profiled using that EAN, if not, the first release could be profiled by EAN and the second by Disc ID. Case types: Custom for the gift set, Slipcase for the 3-disc set when sold as such.

So, we all agree.
The slip case with the UPC should have its profile if sold separately.
The gift set should have a single profile with its outside UPC and no children.
The slip case without UPC should not have a profile (not even by disc id) because I guess it is not sold separately.
And then I guess the UPC of the slip case sold separately is not the same UPC that we would find outside of the gift set package.
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Agreed there is no upc on the Slip Case, for the gift set version, nor does there seem to be any reason supported by the rules for having disc level profiles for either the retail version or the gift set version for this single movie release.

To me it sounds like it was profiled incorrectly to begin with.


Let me say this again...

There IS a UPC on the Slip Case, for the gift set version, that I own.  The upc matches, exactly, the retail version.
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Agreed there is no upc on the Slip Case, for the gift set version, nor does there seem to be any reason supported by the rules for having disc level profiles for either the retail version or the gift set version for this single movie release.

To me it sounds like it was profiled incorrectly to begin with.


Let me say this again...

There IS a UPC on the Slip Case, for the gift set version, that I own.  The upc matches, exactly, the retail version.


Unicus69, is that the R2 NL version we are talking about then? And is, in that case, the UPC the same as the UPC of the gift set we are talking about here? If that is the fact, maybe the currect disc-id profile should be changed to match the UPC of the one you own?
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Unicus69, is that the R2 NL version we are talking about then? And is, in that case, the UPC the same as the UPC of the gift set we are talking about here? If that is the fact, maybe the currect disc-id profile should be changed to match the UPC of the one you own?



No, it is not.  As I said to Martin, in another post, what is inside seems to vary depending on location.  Tracer made the comment that, "there is no upc on the Slip Case, for the gift set version..."  While that may be true for the R2 NL version, it is not true for all versions.  I just want to make sure we don't lump them all in together. 
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I was talking about the R2 release but, in any case there is nothing in the rules as far as I can tell for a single movie release that is packaged in a giftset that allows for it to be treated as a box set profile just because the inner packaging has a UPC.
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So, we all agree.
The slip case with the UPC should have its profile if sold separately.
The gift set should have a single profile with its outside UPC and no children.
The slip case without UPC should not have a profile (not even by disc id) because I guess it is not sold separately.

You are forgetting one important thing: If someone decides to buy the Giftset (which is very cheap right now) and then decides to throw the Giftbox away and keeps the statue and the containing DVD set then how will (s)he find that set in the database if it's not there (anymore)? It's really important to take into consideration that not everyone wants to keep everything and to avoid them using the wrong profile and contributing the wrong items we really need a separate profile for the DVD set without UPC, different Back Cover and Release Date.
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You are forgetting one important thing: If someone decides to buy the Giftset (which is very cheap right now) and then decides to throw the Giftbox away and keeps the statue and the containing DVD set then how will (s)he find that set in the database if it's not there (anymore)?


Sorry Martin, but that's not relevant to the online database. If an individual decides to throw away the packaging, that's up to them - but the UPC profile should represent the entire package as sold. As long as the disc IDs are on the profile, it can be easily found by inserting the disc in the PC.
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Sorry Martin, but that's not relevant to the online database. If an individual decides to throw away the packaging, that's up to them - but the UPC profile should represent the entire package as sold. As long as the disc IDs are on the profile, it can be easily found by inserting the disc in the PC.

So basicly you are saying they need to settle for a profile which contains a box they do not have anymore. That does not sound very social to me.
Martin Zuidervliet

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So basicly you are saying they need to settle for a profile which contains a box they do not have anymore. That does not sound very social to me.


I don't know about being antisocial, but it is the most practical way to do it.  We track DVDs based on the way they were sold.  If someone wants to do something outside of the norm, they have to deal with that on a local level.
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I do not think unpacking a giftset and using a containing DVD set is "something outside of the norm". The people who do/did this can of course create a personal profile, but their online collection will not show their covers and it's not what this program is about. It's made to catalog and share your collection.
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This who new apporach is a bit beside the point: The person who decides to throw away the giftsetbox with the UPC can always add it bij disc-id. Disc-Id's however tend to change over batches of the same product so that's in no way a guarantee that it will be found. The only way to find it then is by looking it up by title. Surely they will remember they have the gift set and will soon enough spot it in the list for that title in their locality.
Not that big a deal if you ask me..

PS, when using a program like this it's unlikely that you throw away the packaging with the UPC code on it. That just doesn't make any sense.
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.........PS, when using a program like this it's unlikely that you throw away the packaging with the UPC code on it. That just doesn't make any sense.


Ah, so you haven't met Madame Mole then ........."You're not going to keep all those empty boxes are you? Why?? Where are you going to store them; the attic is already full???"

BTW...nice kitty, Raymond!  seal point Siamese?
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.........PS, when using a program like this it's unlikely that you throw away the packaging with the UPC code on it. That just doesn't make any sense.


Ah, so you haven't met Madame Mole then ........."You're not going to keep all those empty boxes are you? Why?? Where are you going to store them; the attic is already full???"

BTW...nice kitty, Raymond!  seal point Siamese?


Hi Mole,

No, it's a tabby point holy birman  and he's very naughty 
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Hi Mole,

No, it's a tabby point holy birman  and he's very naughty 


Lovely!.... <gets magnifying glass out>  yup, that's a "hairy meezer, all right!".

We have two Siamese & two Burmese...and a house that bears a striking resemblemce to a battle zone, but hey, who needs  a perfect house when you can have catz!!!    
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