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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 742 |
| | Posted: | | | | Skip, we had exactly this discussion in early September in the thread you linked to on page one of this here thread. Back then you seemingly understood that Ken's and your focus for making the distinction differs, and you said you were going to keep the data based on your interpretation and therfore differing from the rules locally and leave it at that (reread the linked thread from page 3 to end in case you need to familiarize yourself with the discussion again, after all, it's been a while).
John, the same goes for you, too. There really is no need to repeat the same argument again, because of Ken's statements in the referenced thread, this discussion should be over. No one needs to accept the ideas of Ken as correct, you can do what you like locally.
However, for the online, this matter has been settled since September and there's no need to warm it up again. | | | | Lutz |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
Regardless of what Ken said, a slipCASE only has one opening, while a slipCOVER has two opposite each other (top/bottom or side/side), and the method of securing the discs is immaterial to that aspect of things. Can you please provide us with the reference sources for these definitions of "Slip Case" and "Slip Cover"? Thanks. | | | | Hal |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
I don't think many here could pass it simply because we are using more than one definition for the same object based on an arbitrary assumption that a TV boxset is somehow different than a movie boxset. The current distinction as defined by Ken, has absolutely nothing to do with whether the contents are TV shows or movies. It is solely based on whether the inside packaging is a single unit or multiple units. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting reybr: Quote:
Quoting Rifter:
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we are using more than one definition for the same object based on an arbitrary assumption that a TV boxset is somehow different than a movie boxset.
No, we don't. We have the same definition regardless of if it's a TV boxset or movie boxset. We look at the actual container. If there are more than one unit (case) inside a cardboard box, the cover type is slip case. If it's one unit (case) inside a some coardboard (regardless of where the opening is) it's the inner case type with the slip cover checked. It's a very simple consept and has nothing to do with what is on the discs.
And to me, the rules makes perfect sense Reybr: I certainly hope you don't believe what you wrote. There are indeed TWO different definitions for the same object. See Alien Quad defined as a Digipak (slip cover), while the same type of case for Savage Sinema is now a Slip Case. The definition is based on contents, which results in the bogus concept that slip case and slip cover are the same thing, which is also on display several times and is simply bizarre. A slip case is a slip case and a slip cover is a slip cover, other than the majority which would not be the first time that the majority has gotten their way and been wrong, calling a slip case a slip cover is simply erroneous. But like I said... no skin of my nose just another piece of data I will not Contribute to the community's loss...not mine. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,436 |
| | Posted: | | | | Skip, let's put it to rest. I agree with you, as does unicus and a few others as well. However, Ken wants it done differently and we should respect that, keeping data that deviates from that local. | | | Achim [諾亞信； Ya-Shin//Nuo], a German in Taiwan.
Registered: May 29, 2000 (at InterVocative) |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ya_shin: Quote:
Skip, let's put it to rest. I agree with you, as does unicus and a few others as well. However, Ken wants it done differently and we should respect that, keeping data that deviates from that local. exactly... I always agreed as well on a personal level... but we have to do it the way Ken wants it done... at least for the online. | | | | Pete |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I respect it, Achim. I would like somebody to explain the rationale that has been applied to the several areas of the database where we have now applied IF THENS to the data, which in every case has caused confusion and arguments...and resulting in valid data being kept from the Community. I personally don't believe there is a legitimate reason for it, other than the it was, in every case what the majority wanted, and the majority in every case was wrong.
But if there is a legitimate rationale for using two definitons for the same object I would certainly like to hear it. It also decreases both accuracy and usability of the database everytime.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: August 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,807 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
I respect it, Achim.
Then please change your NO vote on Cosby to YES, as per the Rule. ;D If you realize what Ken said (and I think you do: as Darxon said, in the old thread "you seemingly understood that Ken's and your focus for making the distinction differ"), then you should vote accordingly, even if you disagree. Or, at least, vote Neutral, it a Yes would go against your personal view. Quoting Contribution Rules: Quote:
If a user is following the Contribution Rules and his/her data is accurate, and the contribution replaces data which is inaccurate or violates these Contribution Rules, a "No" vote is considered an abuse of the voting privilege and should be avoided when possible.
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I would like somebody to explain the rationale [...] You are not the only one who would like such an explanation. Yet, others vote according to the Rule even when they don't see the rationale, or disagree with it. | | | | -- Enry |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Enry: Have you read everything I have written. Apparently not. Tim has offended me greatly and I have yet to see an apology. I told him him i would not throw a negative vote at him. But he has indeed offended me with his slanderous comments and that one comment solidified my vote on Cosby and I will NOT change it, and he has now had almost 12 hours to correct this which is MORE time than was involved in his slander. I am not easy to ffend to but if you do....  Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
|   | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | You want me to apologize? For what? For following the rules...? Just kidding there, but I honestly don't understand what you mean. | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Tim:
I'll not repeat it go back to your slanderous comment of this morning and read my reply.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Okay, I've gone back a page or two to see where I might have offended you. I see you got "livid" after I referred to 8ballmax's comment about the sixth season of 'Magnum P.I.'? I purely responded to what 8ballmax wrote - I don't own that particular set, I didn't vote on it, I didn't see any contributions, nor did I see any votes. Again, I purely referred to what 8ballmax posted. If that situation has changed since then - great! I don't know anything about it, though, and I didn't claim otherwise. So I still don't see the problem... |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | You owned when you accepted it as fact, and at that time it was no longer fact. So you instead of finding out FIRST you chose instead to slander me. Don't make such comments without having COMPLETE information. You knew enough abouty it to slander me.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Enry:
Have you read everything I have written. Apparently not. Tim has offended me greatly and I have yet to see an apology.
I told him him i would not throw a negative vote at him. But he has indeed offended me with his slanderous comments and that one comment solidified my vote on Cosby and I will NOT change it, and he has now had almost 12 hours to correct this which is MORE time than was involved in his slander. I am not easy to ffend to but if you do....
Skip I am sorry, but I have to call shenanigans. The fact that T!M offended you has nothing to do with his contribution and your 'no' vote...unless you are now saying we can all vote based on personal opinions and feelings.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Sorry unicus please adress the specific issue at hand. And stop trying to sidetrack it. I'll wporry about other issues when I deemn them appropriate. I...not you
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Sorry Skip, please don't tell me what I should and shouldn't address. I will decide what I choose to worry about. I, not you. You are violating the rules. If you don't like my pointing out your flagrant violation of the rules, then don't admit to them in a public forum.  And, yes, I fully expect a red mark for this post. It would be par for the course. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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