Quoting skipnet50:

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I think this ends the discussion and Tim is WRONG, grossly WRONG as the vote regarding suffixes demonstrates

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It does not end the discussion if people here wish to continue the discussion. 

If you choose not to participate that is up to you!

Quoting Addicted2DVD:

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except this poll does not over-ride the rules which tells us when we can use the credited as... and standardization is not what credited as is for at this point.

You are right, but maybe we should ask Ken for a an exception and standardize commas.

Then somebody will come up with something else, they want to standardize, maybe Mýa or somethjing else, then someone else will have their per standardized name and so on and pretty soon it's a mess. We have never adnd don't now standardize ANY names for ANY reason. I can't support ANY such premise under ANY circumstances, this is strictly a LOCAL issue ONLY.

We already have far more complexity than was built into the Rules and is necessary. We have started on a very slippery path.

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But why do we need and just how many polls do we need, pete. If they want to, fine, I guess, but we just polled this what two weeks ago. This polling game has just gotten way too silly.

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Quoting Addicted2DVD:

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and once again I agree with you... but I still would not even consider to take away their right to make a poll or the right to make a request of any sort.

Add my agreement to all of Pete's.  I think it is a bad idea to start down the 'standardization' road.  Today it is a comma, tomorrow it is the entire name.  For me, it makes more sense to use 'as credited' unless there is a variant of the credited name.

Edited to fix typo...for some reason I wrote "start the the 'standardization' road". 

Quoting skipnet50:

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Then somebody will come up with something else, they want to standardize, maybe Mýa or somethjing else, then someone else will have their per standardized name and so on and pretty soon it's a mess. We have never adnd don't now standardize ANY names for ANY reason. I can't support ANY such premise under ANY circumstances,

That's not completely true. There is already one exception, and it seems to me that no "mess" has come from that.

Quoting the Credits Rules:

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Exception: If the credit information is entirely capitalized, use standard capitalization rules instead.

The capitalization exception is very specific, and so would be a standard for commas before Jr./Sr. suffixes.

Also, we contribute Overviews "as on back cover", but we insert non-existing quotes to show italics, and no "mess" has come from that exception either.

Quoting skipnet50:

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That, enry was a very carefully considered and crafted exception to a specific issue that has nothing to do with the issue at hand, and was done for specific reasons.

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That's my point.  It was a well-considered exception done for specific reasons, and it didn't lead us on a slippery path. 

The "recount", as you call it, is right here at the top of the page... And guess what? Apparently things aren't so black and white as you'd like them to be.