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 Isn't contribution system going in a wrong way? (Locked) |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | The Rules are written for ALL, surfeur, there are no exceptions. The Online database for ALL regions resides in the same place. I would suggest that if you wish to be exempt from the Rules relative, that perhaps those in the French locality should arrange special hosting for THAT part of the database aside from Invelos, then you can do as you please. It si you who are wanting to be traeted differently from the rest of the world.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
As to your claim of one being wrong, that is YOUR opinion, and I would point out to you that BOTH polls taken since then have said your Opinion was WRONG.
Skip Actually, the last poll on this is running 50 to 44 against your position.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Took me a second to figure out what you were looking at. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,917 |
| | Posted: | | | | As I mentioned waaaay back in this thread (earlier today), if you wish to submit a profile, set it up to conform with what is listed on the rules contribution page. Then after you submit it, alter it to match your personal preferences and then lock the fields you edited. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | That is how you do it, Dr. On top of that once you lock a title; when you upload the Invelos server will create a clone of your data minus artwork.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: April 16, 2007 |  Posts: 13 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
The Rules are to be followed by ALL Regions, if I should happen to buy a disc from your area I would expect that the Online should resemble ANY other Contribution.We know that there are some local issues, but there is no reason for any major departure from the Rules.
Skip Very interesting! I recently submitted contributions updating the profiles for three Region 3 DVD releases of Shaw Brothers movies. I note today that they have been declined on the basis that I did not provide the source of the information I inserted, which seems to relate to cast and crew. IN fact, my Contribution Notes for all three noted the source, CINEMASIE. I can accept that a panel member might not recognise the name. But, it seems to me, an email to check the reference would have more easily resolved the matter than outright rejection. Not that it worries me. I am happy to contribute from time-to-time as the quid pro quo for the Profiles I download. I do my best to follow the rules and, if my contributions do not conform for some reason, then I expect rejection. If they are not wanted so be it!  But on one uninformed vote? |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
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I continually see new names in the voting screens and on contributions, and my collection isn't that big.
Please, as you continually see new names on contributions, can you give me one or two new contributor on french zone 2 ?
No. I don't do Region 2 DVDs. I was making a point you apparently missed.
YOU missed something.
I wanted to show you that your vision of zone1 problems is not true everywhere. But the problem of off-putting contribution rules IS true everywhere and when there are very few contributors, it can be significative to make them stop contributing. Try to consider you are not alone in the world. Sounds like YOUR problem, bud, not mine. You seem to have an aversion to authority - as in following rules that were created for the benefit of everybody, not just you. I don't have one bit of sympathy for you. If you think you're too good to abide by the rules, go ahead and don't contribute - cut off your nose to spite your face, as the saying goes. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting richardw: Quote:
Quoting skipnet50:
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The Rules are to be followed by ALL Regions, if I should happen to buy a disc from your area I would expect that the Online should resemble ANY other Contribution.We know that there are some local issues, but there is no reason for any major departure from the Rules.
Skip
Very interesting! I recently submitted contributions updating the profiles for three Region 3 DVD releases of Shaw Brothers movies.
I note today that they have been declined on the basis that I did not provide the source of the information I inserted, which seems to relate to cast and crew.
IN fact, my Contribution Notes for all three noted the source, CINEMASIE.
I can accept that a panel member might not recognise the name. But, it seems to me, an email to check the reference would have more easily resolved the matter than outright rejection.
Not that it worries me.
I am happy to contribute from time-to-time as the quid pro quo for the Profiles I download. I do my best to follow the rules and, if my contributions do not conform for some reason, then I expect rejection.
If they are not wanted so be it! But on one uninformed vote? If it is as you have described, then it was rejected because your sole listed source was some third party site/book/whatever, and NOT the disc itself. Primary source is ALWAYS the DVD, with the cover as a backup to that. Even if they didn't recognize the source you named, its obvious it wasn't the disc, and that trumps everything else. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
I don't have one bit of sympathy for you. Poor guy... Unable to read Unable to think Unable to consider anything except his own certainties... I think it's no more necessary to discuss with blind minded people  | | | | Images from movies |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,279 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
That is how you do it, Dr. On top of that once you lock a title; when you upload the Invelos server will create a clone of your data minus artwork.
Skip Why do you keep stating incorrectly that you need to lock data for it to clone? It clones local data regardless of lock state. Ken has confirmed several times this is no longer the case with version 3. | | | | IVS Registered: January 2, 2002 |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,279 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting richardw: Quote:
Quoting skipnet50:
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The Rules are to be followed by ALL Regions, if I should happen to buy a disc from your area I would expect that the Online should resemble ANY other Contribution.We know that there are some local issues, but there is no reason for any major departure from the Rules.
Skip
Very interesting! I recently submitted contributions updating the profiles for three Region 3 DVD releases of Shaw Brothers movies.
I note today that they have been declined on the basis that I did not provide the source of the information I inserted, which seems to relate to cast and crew.
IN fact, my Contribution Notes for all three noted the source, CINEMASIE.
It looks like a 3rd party database, in much the same way as IMDB is. The reason for stating the source is as much to ensure it is a valid source for the data as anything else. For Profiler purposes 3rd party databases are not valid for cast and crew. Sucks when the dvd's don't have a subtitled translation of the cast and crew, but there you go. | | | | IVS Registered: January 2, 2002 |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,022 |
| | Posted: | | | | The only frustration I have, is when an image contribution is declined, despite there being up to a 20-1 yes vote. As it is basically a subjective element of a profile, surely such a great majority should dictate that it is a preferable image? But it appears the screener/autobot follows the 1 no vote. Frustrated | | |  |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 17,804 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
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I don't have one bit of sympathy for you.
Poor guy...
Unable to read
Unable to think
Unable to consider anything except his own certainties...
I think it's no more necessary to discuss with blind minded people
You remember my 1st answer to you at the beginning of this thread? Take it easy! | | | | Thorsten |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting kahless: Quote:
You remember my 1st answer to you at the beginning of this thread? Take it easy! Well, in fact I knew that from the beginning, since I've read many topics in these forums. I just regret that it seems impossible to have a quiet discussion where everybody tries to understand the arguments of the other party. I have personnally no problem, I'm very happy with dvdprofiler. But I think the system is going wrong and I tried without any success to alert about it. Thank you for your support  | | | | Images from movies |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 582 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
But I think the system is going wrong and I tried without any success to alert about it.
Thank you for your support I can only say it again Surfeur, what do you propose ? I don't think anyone here will tell you that they are thrilled with the rules, on the contrary I'm sure everyone wishes we didn't need them but that doesn't seem to be the case. Saying that they're going in the wrong way doesn't change the situation, maybe you should join the contribution rules committee (if you haven't already) and make you representations there. I'm sorry but you can't come here, complain of something that you feel is a problem and expect everybody else to come up with a solution for you. If you think the rules should not apply in R2 or in your locality, you have to "formally" bring that up in the contribution rules comitee forums. | | | My 4x4 Club: Club FJ Cruiser Quebec
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