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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 775 |
| Posted: | | | | Ahem. I haven't proposed a single change in this thread, or even encountered an Alan Smithee credit in my contributions. And your clueless rambles are focused on me, why? Oh yeah, 'cause you and Rifter have it in for me. Surprise surprise! GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD. Everyone else can see it, why can't you? There is NO SUCH PERSON as Alan Smithee! If the true identity can be proven, what on Earth is the reason not to put it in there? As is the trend, you and Rifter are in opposition to everyone else! One more instance of your cluelessness is choosing the common name. If and when I choose a common name, it is based on the most commonly credited name as given in several online databases, NOT my local. Isn't it about time you quit making assumptions? DTS mono, powerdvd 4 surround... ring any bells? As for "40 page discussions", if you didn't enjoy them you'd not get involved, so don't give me/blame me for that rubbish. Yes, stuff in the common name field may end up being redone. But if this Smithee stuff gets corrected, clearly the eventual system will be terribly flawed, so we may as well get good work done as and when possible. I just cannot get my head around why you are being so defensive of clearly unsufficient data. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,694 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Lopek: Quote:
Talk about Red Herrings to drag things away from the topic at hand. This has nothing to do with common names.
I agree with those with the common sense - the perfect use for Credited as.
Some people need to move with the times and accept that DVDP is no longer just As Credited for cast and crew. Sez you. Just because its the older way of doing it, doesn't mean its the obsolete way, or the wrong way. Ever hear the old adage that goes "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"? | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964 Make America Great Again! |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,694 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Nadja: Quote: Ahem. I haven't proposed a single change in this thread, or even encountered an Alan Smithee credit in my contributions. And your clueless rambles are focused on me, why? Oh yeah, 'cause you and Rifter have it in for me. Surprise surprise!
GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD. Everyone else can see it, why can't you? There is NO SUCH PERSON as Alan Smithee! If the true identity can be proven, what on Earth is the reason not to put it in there? As is the trend, you and Rifter are in opposition to everyone else!
One more instance of your cluelessness is choosing the common name. If and when I choose a common name, it is based on the most commonly credited name as given in several online databases, NOT my local. Isn't it about time you quit making assumptions? DTS mono, powerdvd 4 surround... ring any bells?
As for "40 page discussions", if you didn't enjoy them you'd not get involved, so don't give me/blame me for that rubbish.
Yes, stuff in the common name field may end up being redone. But if this Smithee stuff gets corrected, clearly the eventual system will be terribly flawed, so we may as well get good work done as and when possible. I just cannot get my head around why you are being so defensive of clearly unsufficient data. Hey, you opened yer yap and made a comment, so you're fair game. But, truth be known, I couldn't care less WHO said what. Its the "what" I'm replying to. You ask why not enter Smithee's REAL name? Because that isn't the name in the credits on the damn disc! Its that simple. If there's any trend here, it isn't me and Skip trying to impose it. Its the rest of you trying to make things far more complex and difficult to deal with at almost every turn. I follow the rule KISS. That means: KEEP IT SIMPLE, STUPID! I will ALWAYS look for the simplest, most efficient way to do it - which is also the easiest in most cases - and nothing will ever change that. Oh, btw, it isn't "unsufficient". You spell that INsufficient. Just for the record, however, the data isn't insufficient, it is correct, because that is what actually appears on the disc in the credits. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964 Make America Great Again! |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Lopek: Quote:
Talk about Red Herrings to drag things away from the topic at hand. This has nothing to do with common names.
I agree with those with the common sense - the perfect use for Credited as.
Some people need to move with the times and accept that DVDP is no longer just As Credited for cast and crew. All in good time. at least I am doing somethin, lopek which is FAR more than you are, other than siitting on the sidelines and sniping. BTW I am beginning to wonder about your fish fetish. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 775 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote: You ask why not enter Smithee's REAL name? Because that isn't the name in the credits on the damn disc! Its that simple. If there's any trend here, it isn't me and Skip trying to impose it. Its the rest of you trying to make things far more complex and difficult to deal with at almost every turn. I follow the rule KISS. That means: KEEP IT SIMPLE, STUPID! I will ALWAYS look for the simplest, most efficient way to do it - which is also the easiest in most cases - and nothing will ever change that. You be as simple as you like, the rest of us seem to be capable of comprehending slightly more advanced techniques. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 813 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote: All in good time. at least I am doing somethin, lopek which is FAR more than you are, other than siitting on the sidelines and sniping.
BTW I am beginning to wonder about your fish fetish.
Skip And again with the "I work harder than everyone" crap. Get over yourself. And before making accusations, maybe check out my contribution stats! @Rifter: Sez Ken - he introduced the Credited As field. What a pair of muppets you two are.... continue with your show, pushing the community away, I have no time for you. | | | Andy
"Credited as" Names Database | | | Last edited: by Lopek |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | I didn't say that, sir. I said you are doing NOTHING. You sit on the sidelines and carp, that's it. You don't do squat. And BTW I definitely am NOT interested in your opinion on ANY Common Name.
He also has plans for proper implementation of Credited AS field but he hasn't rolled it out yet, Bozo.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| Registered: March 28, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,299 |
| Posted: | | | | I'm very confused as to why there's an opposition to this.
Isn't part of the fun of DVD Profiler the ability to look up what cast & crew members have worked on what movies in your library?
If we don't put Alan Smithee in the "credited as" field, that lookup option is less accurate and hence less fun.
If we do put Alan Smithee in the "credited as" field, that lookup option will be more accurate while also maintaining the accuracy of the overall database.
Or am I simplifying it too much?
KM | | | Tags, tags, bo bags, banana fana fo fags, mi my mo mags, TAGS! Dolly's not alone. You can also clone profiles. You've got questions? You've got answers? Take the DVD Profiler Wiki for a spin. |
| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Astrakan: Quote: I'm very confused as to why there's an opposition to this.
Welcome to the DVD Profiler forums! |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,029 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Astrakan: Quote: I'm very confused as to why there's an opposition to this. There isn't. There is just one who does repeat the same ignorant stuff over and over again. No, I do not refer to skipnet50. | | | Matthias |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,911 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote: I didn't say that, sir. I said you are doing NOTHING. You sit on the sidelines and carp, that's it. You don't do squat. And BTW I definitely am NOT interested in your opinion on ANY Common Name.
He also has plans for proper implementation of Credited AS field but he hasn't rolled it out yet, Bozo.
Skip Doing squat? Here are Andy's stats. Statistics Member Since: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 (94 days ago) Last Forum Visit: Saturday, June 16, 2007 10:02 AM Forum Posts: 300 Forum posts by Lopek Accepted Profile Contributions: 626 Accepted Image Contributions: 571 Contribution Votes Cast: 54 Looks like squat...nOT! | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... | | | Last edited: by NewEnglander |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | How anyone can argue with the perfectly clear meaning of this Rule is beyond me!
"Use the "As Credited" field where the person's name differs from the credited name."
The "person's name" is John Lynch.
The "credited name" is Alan Smithee.
"John Lynch" differs from "Alan Smithee", therefore the above Rule directs you to use the "As Credited" field. It is not an option.
To put Alan Smithee in both fields would be a violation of the Rules! | | | Hal | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
| Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,475 |
| Posted: | | | | I never thought name calling ever contributed anything to a good debate - it makes me uncomfortable and I do not gain insight or understanding of the topic. My hope is that the forums be open and thought provoking - not mean spirited, vindictive, or unkind. |
| Registered: March 28, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,299 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote: How anyone can argue with the perfectly clear meaning of this Rule is beyond me!
"Use the "As Credited" field where the person's name differs from the credited name."
The "person's name" is John Lynch.
The "credited name" is Alan Smithee.
"John Lynch" differs from "Alan Smithee", therefore the above Rule directs you to use the "As Credited" field. It is not an option.
To put Alan Smithee in both fields would be a violation of the Rules! Ooooh! Good call. I guess that settles it then? Unless there's a way to interpret that rule that I can't see. KM | | | Tags, tags, bo bags, banana fana fo fags, mi my mo mags, TAGS! Dolly's not alone. You can also clone profiles. You've got questions? You've got answers? Take the DVD Profiler Wiki for a spin. |
| | Erik | It's a strange world. |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 422 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Astrakan: Quote: Quoting hal9g:
Quote: How anyone can argue with the perfectly clear meaning of this Rule is beyond me!
"Use the "As Credited" field where the person's name differs from the credited name."
The "person's name" is John Lynch.
The "credited name" is Alan Smithee.
"John Lynch" differs from "Alan Smithee", therefore the above Rule directs you to use the "As Credited" field. It is not an option.
To put Alan Smithee in both fields would be a violation of the Rules! Ooooh! Good call. I guess that settles it then? Unless there's a way to interpret that rule that I can't see. Always. Have to agree with Hal and Nadja (and others) here though... | | | Erik
"Has it ever occurred to you, man, that given the nature of all this new stuff, that, uh, instead of running around blaming me, that this whole thing might just be, not, you know, not just such a simple, but uh - you know?" -- The Dude, The Big Lebowski
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Astrakan: Quote: I'm very confused as to why there's an opposition to this.
Isn't part of the fun of DVD Profiler the ability to look up what cast & crew members have worked on what movies in your library?
If we don't put Alan Smithee in the "credited as" field, that lookup option is less accurate and hence less fun.
If we do put Alan Smithee in the "credited as" field, that lookup option will be more accurate while also maintaining the accuracy of the overall database.
Or am I simplifying it too much?
Astra:
KM Since otherers don't get it either and I can't say iI am surprised. My objection to the Common name issue is broad based and is simply waiting for Ken to implement his system. Once he does that....look out. Alan Smithee is one of the very FEW that i would have no problem with even now. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
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