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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | I just placed an order for some 4k releases... some arte upgrades while others are completely new to my collection. Did I make some good choices this time? King Kong Regions ABC Released: 7/11/2017 Widescreen 2.35 The Secret Life of Pets 2 Regions ABC Released: 8/27/2019 Widescreen 1.85 Fast & Furious 8-Movie Collection Regions ABC Released: 6/11/2019 Toy Story 4 Regions ABC Released: 10/8/2019 Widescreen 2.39 The Shining Regions ABC Released: 10/1/2019 Widescreen 1.78 | | | Pete |
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Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,917 |
| Posted: | | | | I don't think you'll get much millage on older movies in 4K because the resolution wasn't high to begin with. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr. Killpatient: Quote: I don't think you'll get much millage on older movies in 4K because the resolution wasn't high to begin with. I don't know if this guy is right or wrong... what do you all say? Why Do Older Movies Look Better in 4K? | | | Pete | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
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Registered: October 22, 2015 | Reputation: | Posts: 274 |
| Posted: | | | | It depends on the condition of the source material that the 4K scan was derived from.
Naturally, modern day films have negatives and high-resolution prints in more pristine condition, so a 4K scan (with HDR enhancement) will have more potential to impress the eye than say a 4K scan of an old scratchy negative, worn-out print or lower-resolution print.
From a technical point of view, film camera negatives have far greater resolution than 4K.
Based on what you ordered recently, "The Shining" is the oldest movie and I can tell you the 4K version of that film was derived from a 4K scan of the original 35mm camera negative, and it is awesome in comparison to the Blu-ray version.
On the other hand, the 4K King Kong Ultimate Edition was derived from a 4K scan of a 2K digital intermediate, but the image is still impressive, particularly the dazzling colours, far better than the Blu-ray.
If in doubt, read reviews from say, blu-ray.com, before you buy. | | | Last edited: by ObiKen |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote: Quoting Dr. Killpatient:
Quote: I don't think you'll get much millage on older movies in 4K because the resolution wasn't high to begin with.
I don't know if this guy is right or wrong... what do you all say?
Why Do Older Movies Look Better in 4K? Personally I have had better experiences with older material. Pre-digital films can look awesome if they have been properly restored. While some films from the digital era don't look much better (and sometimes worse) than the blu-ray. The main benefit is HDR but that also fails somtimes for lack of effort and competence. Check out some reviews before you buy. I can recommend the Films At Home channel on Youtube that you link to. | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 | | | Last edited: by Nexus the Sixth |
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Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,461 |
| Posted: | | | | I agree with ObiKen's technical points, and iPatsa comes right down to it: common sense. Read reviews, check it out yourself, because one size does not fit all. | | | Thanks for your support. Free Plugins available here. Advanced plugins available here. Hey, new product!!! BDPFrog. | | | Last edited: by mediadogg |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | I so can't wait to get the TV! It should be soon... within the next week or so. ordered a few more 4k for when it comes... Ex Machina Regions ABC Released: 6/6/2017 Widescreen 2.40 Star Trek Trilogy: The Kelvin Timeline Regions ABC Released: 7/15/2019 Widescreen Doctor Sleep Regions ABC Released: 2/4/2020 Widescreen 1.85 | | | Pete | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Today I got my income tax returns. I got a ride to get my 4K TV tomorrow. I feel a 4k Movie Marathon coming this weekend! (Fri-Sun) Here is the 4k films I have purchased recently... Deadpool 1 & 2 Regions ABC Released: 8/21/2018 Widescreen 2.40 Arrival Regions ABC Released: 2/14/2017 Widescreen 2.40 Transformers: The Ultimate 5-Movie Collection [/DIVLEFT] [DIVLEFT MARGIN="10px"]Released: 11/6/2018 [DIVLEFT MARGIN="10px"][/DIVLEFT] Pet Sematary Regions ABC Released: 3/26/2019 Widescreen 1.85 Pride + Prejudice + Zombies Regions ABC Released: 5/31/2016 Widescreen 2.40 Passengers Regions ABC Released: 3/14/2017 Widescreen 2.40 LIFE Regions ABC Released: 6/20/2017 Widescreen 2.39 Christine Regions ABC Released: 9/11/2018 Widescreen 2.39 Zombieland Regions ABC Released: 10/1/2019 Widescreen 2.39 Jurassic World: 5-Movie Collection Regions ABC Released: 9/10/2019 Widescreen Justice League Regions ABC Released: 3/13/2018 Widescreen 1.78 Creed II Regions ABC Released: 3/5/2019 Widescreen 2.40 Now all I have to do is try to figure out what will be the first 4K movie I will watch! | | | Pete |
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Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,461 |
| Posted: | | | | Of those you posted, I vote for Transformers or King Kong to get the full impact of 4K, HDR colors and Atmos sound. Oh, I just noticed Avengers Endgame. Oh yeah! | | | Thanks for your support. Free Plugins available here. Advanced plugins available here. Hey, new product!!! BDPFrog. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting mediadogg: Quote: Of those you posted, I vote for Transformers or King Kong to get the full impact of 4K, HDR colors and Atmos sound. Oh, I just noticed Avengers Endgame. Oh yeah! Unfortunately none of these are true 4K releases. I'd go with Passengers for the full 4k experience. | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Unfortunately the TV I wanted was out of stock at the store but with next day shipping I will have it delivered here to me tomorrow. | | | Pete |
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Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,461 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting iPatsa: Quote: Quoting mediadogg:
Quote: Of those you posted, I vote for Transformers or King Kong to get the full impact of 4K, HDR colors and Atmos sound. Oh, I just noticed Avengers Endgame. Oh yeah!
Unfortunately none of these are true 4K releases. I'd go with Passengers for the full 4k experience. Hmm ... didn't realize that. Not sure I could tell the difference between what you are calling "true" 4K and whatever it is they have. I have pretty decent equipment, so it would be interesting to know if you can ACTUALLY see a difference, or if you are talking about a technical distinction (on paper). I will watch them again this weekend as homework, since all my commitments have been postponed or cancelled due to the virus precautions. | | | Thanks for your support. Free Plugins available here. Advanced plugins available here. Hey, new product!!! BDPFrog. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
| Posted: | | | | Passengers was filmed in 6.5K and mastered in 4K. The other ones were at some point upscaled from 2K. Not to say they look bad, but there is certainly a difference between "true" 4K and the rest. | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | So far I watched 2 of my 4k movies..
Passangers - While entertaining... the film left some to be desired. But Wow! the visuals and and sound... fantastic!
Justice League - I prefered the movie over Passangers... and while looking and sounding great Passangers had it beat. | | | Pete |
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