Quoting AiAustria:

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If you are ranting about theese German users, either name them

People like you, AiAustria, or Deacon78, propagating to add uncredited German voice over names as Cast.

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If you are ranting about theese German users, either name them or at least give an adequate example! This - from my point of view wrong - prejudgement does not help

I don't post over there, but as far as I can see, there are no contradictions to the rules over here. There are some clarifications for users, who don't perfectly understand the English written rules and most of the quarreling around here is omitted over there. This could be a problem as far as contributors are not aware of some mine fields... But no reason for such statements.

It will take a while to find the thread, but Grendell is correct.  The last incident I remember, a German user came here to ask a question and was chastised for daring to ask his question here as the German Forum had already decided how to handle the situation...which wasn't exactly per the rules.  That user was told he should be asking his questions in the German forum and we, the non-German users, who gave answers based on the actual rules, were told to keep our noses out of their region.

I must clarify this for the Akte X Box:

Currently we have as the seasons have no UPC for each season the first Disc-ID as the season profile:

Disc-ID 1 Season 1 with all episodes with full Crew and Cast
Disc-ID 1 Season 2 with all episodes with full Crew and Cast
and so on.

As usual in TV series there is a main profile per season with all episodes Crew and Cast. Per Disc ID for each disc is facultativ. So I have all my TV series with Crew and Cast per Season, I don't like to have 55 profiles with the same coverscans and difficult to maintain.

I told Duncan if he makes profiles per disc not to remove all the cast and crew in Disc-ID 1 for each season, to let it stand and to make for the first disc an alternativ #1 profile. So the users can then still decide if they like only per season or per the 55 discs. That can't be such wrong, all the TV series are like this. Therfor my no vote to the remove of all the Crew and Cast always for the 1st disc in each season.

And as it is cloned from the US profile which has a lot of mistakes as invalid BY's, missing crosslinks we did a lot of work in the actual 9 per season profiles, I don't like to loose it again because the per disc has again all these failures as MickySpoon told.

Fritz

TheMadMartian

Please tell me exactly where this is written, I can't find it in the rules. There is nowhere written that this way as I like it is forbidden. And you really tell me, because of the missing EAN per season, I have to have 55 profiles in my database to be rule conform? What a mess, 55 times same cover and informations like overview, a big database for absolutely nothing. Per season is really enough, I would never take 55 profiles in my database just because of a rule. Then I maintain my season profiles well, and I am sure the disc profiles are sooner or later a mess.

Fritz

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If you are ranting about theese German users, either name them or at least give an adequate example!

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Quoting Duncan MacLeod:

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This nice pm was in my postbox:

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But honestly I don't care if you understand these rules.
Contribute again in this way and we all will vote against you. I think I made myself clear.

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Ufff... I find the Box with one profile for each season enough. We have now the box and attached 9 profiles for each of the 9 seasons with Disc-ID as no EAN is present. Each season has about 7 discs. So this would be over 60 profiles if done per disc. This is two much and really brings nothing than a lot of work. I would lock my profile and never accept in my collection such a mess. One profile per season is more than enough and good to work with.

Fritz

I tend to agree, before we know it someone will want 202 profiles ... one for each episode.

it would be 1 parent profile and 56 disc level profiles. No season profiles.

and if it came with 1 episode on a disc then it would be 202 disc level profiles.

[b]deal with it. lock your profiles, let someone fix them and then upload the correct profiles, reaping the rewards of somebody else's hard work, or move on and find a different database that does not have guidelines.
there is already enough stupid stuff done per the contribution rules, but doing stupid stuff on your own and pssing and moaning about it when someone wants to do it correctly is regoddamndiculos.[/b]

I gave my personal opinion on the matter and I'm aware of the current rules.  However, this kind of attitude is why more and more people have stopped contributing to the database.

According to the TV Series rules disc level profiles are not required or in other words "optional".

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TheMadMartian

Please tell me exactly where this is written, I can't find it in the rules. There is nowhere written that this way as I like it is forbidden.

Addicted already did this back on page one.  In addition to what he posted, the only place in the TV Series section of the rules, where they mention using the disc ID, is for creating disc level profiles.

Now, because you are voting no to disc level profiles that are clearly allowed by the rules, please tell me where, in the rules, disc ID based season level profiles are allowed.

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And you really tell me, because of the missing EAN per season, I have to have 55 profiles in my database to be rule conform?

No, I am telling you what, in my opinion, the rules call for when contributing to the main database.  You are, of course, free to do whatever you want in your local database.

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What a mess, 55 times same cover and informations like overview, a big database for absolutely nothing. Per season is really enough, I would never take 55 profiles in my database just because of a rule. Then I maintain my season profiles well, and I am sure the disc profiles are sooner or later a mess.

First, whether or not it is enough is just your opinion.  Other people are of a different opinion.  And, again, you don't have to take 55 profiles into your database.  Simply lock down your well maintained season profiles and be done with it.  it's what I do.

I've contributed on parent profile of the box set. Since there is a limit in size for the contribution comments, I use this thread to clarify the contribution and comment the No Votes...

Comments on the No Votes:

silentsign writes:

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This is just wrong. Series-Box-sets have to be contributed per season. Read the rules.

This is nonsense and offending. Exactly the opposite is true, the rules don't even allow profiles for seperate seasons if they don not have distinct UPCs. The rules read:

Heading of the TV Series rules:

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TV Series on DVD come in 2 separate types:

    Complete Series/Season sets
    Anthologies of Episodes that do not form a complete series or season.

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Note: In cases where multiple complete TV seasons/series (each with distinct UPC/EAN) are packaged together, the Box-set rules are applied, treating each season/series like a single film - applying the above rules for its individual profile.

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No, put the single discs into the season profile, use #1 for the single first disc-ID: http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=825118&PageNum=3&messageID=2591382#M2591382

This is his wish - and I can understand it - but not in accordance with the rules, which is quite clearly clarified in the following messages in the quoted thread. Even worse, there isn't even the possibility to misuse the alternate profile option for this case - also clarified in the thread.

The voting rules are quite clear either:

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If a user is following the Contribution Rules and his/her data is accurate, and the contribution replaces data which is inaccurate or violates these Contribution Rules, a "No" vote is considered an abuse of the voting privilege and should be avoided when possible.

Therefore I submitted the first red arrows for the no votes.

I won't accept threats via private message either, but forward them to the support team.