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From Oxford dictionary:

Yes, thank you.  #2 fits quite nicely.

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I thought English was your language. Tell me in which language I have to translate #2 for you to understand it.

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They're just a few examples, that list certainly isn't exhaustive.

Again, if it is understood that we only enter the roles that are listed in the 'Credited As' column, why do we need examples?

I think some examples are provided simply to point out a few mistakes that are easily made. Just a few examples driving the point home as to what kind of data Invelos is and isn't after. But no-one ever claimed that these lists are exhaustive, or else, indeed: welcome "line producers", "consulting producers", or hey, "visual effects producers"...  I honestly cannot believe that we've sunk to "anything that isn't listed as forbidden, must be allowed" stance. What's next? The caterer gets crew credits in all major categories?

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Or should we start entering, say, "Line Producers" now, just because those aren't listed in the "Incorrect Roles" column?

Should we?  No.  Can we?  It sure seems that way.

Not to me.

I think the crew chart is extremely misleading throughout.

In Film Editors, it explicitly states only principle when listed together.

We are unable to use anything under sound, when a PSM is present

On the other hand, we include any thing listed as special effects, even though these people may very well be technicians.  The example of , we include the supervisor, but do not include the foreman, but then include the dozen people under the special effects headers

We include wardrobe or costume supervisor under the heading of Costume design, even though one has nothing to do with the other.

Apparently, for the people that argue for only stuff in the tables, prostethic makeup is not allowed, even though this is the job "Make-Up effects"

To ascertain what is wanted and not wanted by invelos is not obtainable from the table or the rules, for there are contradictions.

As far as cast, we are allowed to enter the voice credits of people under ADR, but are restricted from entering stunt personnel in most cases (even though these people appear in the movie)

The rules need an update and overhaul concerning cast and crew.  We also need guidance from Ken concerning dividers.


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As far as cast, we are allowed to enter the voice credits of people under ADR, but are restricted from entering stunt personnel in most cases (even though these people appear in the movie)

Not exactly.  You're able to enter almost anyone as an uncredited cast member as long as you tell the screeners you saw them in the film.

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I've been with Profiler since it first appeared

Just like the op who started the thread and just like the vast majority of posters in this thread (2007)

All these threads do is annoy and frustrate and, for those of us that have been around for a long time, bore us stupid.

That being the case you shouldn't read them, unless of course you want to be "bored stupid". Funny, but every poster, but one, has been a round as long as you have (2007).

Just an opinion of course.

Of course, just like everything else in this thread.

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Funny, but every poster, but one, has been a round as long as you have (2007).

That's only since 'Invelos' time. I'm talking about when Profiler was under the Intervocative company - which I 'think' was 1997 (could be off a year or two there).

But, even if it was only 2007, it doesn't change the fact that I've (we've) seen threads like this forever and nothing changes.

Anyway, you are of course correct - I don't have to read these threads. I stopped contributing and coming in here for the very reasons I mention. Nothing changes. I've just started contributing again and I intend to continue with that; but this forum really doesn't add to the Profiler experience or make the program easier to use, in my opinion, if anything it makes things a lot harder.

So, toodles.