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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote:
I've been using Windows 8 on my private PC since January. I took advantage of the limited-time €29 upgrade offer.
As a software developer I just need to know what's out there and what's coming next.
I can use Windows 8 and don't have that many problems with it.
But for me, the start screen is totally pointless. The only App I've ever installed is Skype and I threw that off my computer realizing that the Skype App is not able to share your screen with another Skyper. So I installed Skype for Desktop again.
I switch from Start Screen to Desktop instantly after boot and never see the Start Screen agin.
My most used programs are all pinned to the taskbar anyway. For Micorsoft's standard programs I've known the name of the .exe by heart for more than a decade (luckily they rarely if ever change).
I just press WIN+R and type:
calc
notepad
mspaint
cmd
winword
excel
powerpnt
msaccess
charmap
If I want to start any other program I press WIN+Q and search there for it.
It's incredibly more faster than scrolling to an endless row of panels.
But to be fair, I already did most of this in Win 7, there you press WIN instead of WIN+Q and start typing.
Then again, I've been growing up with a DOS shell. In the end only true mouse pushers can answer if this screen is any good.
Whart I really, really hate is this (and sadly, this was already changed in Win 7): The search. Win XP had a simple search and a customizable advanced search where I could search for files that where changed between Christmas and New Year. But no, Microsoft had to copy Apple's Finder without keeping the old system for advanced users.  I agree with every word in this post, except I'm not a developer, I'm system administrator, When I wan't to run a program I just press Windows key and start typing (works for both 7 & 8) and I also use Apps. I really really hate what they did for search in Win 7. I usually use Treesize to replace Windows' useless search. BTW Win+X is quite handy too. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting mediadogg: Quote:
Windows RT is the portion of Windows 8 that is supported on Tablets. The software interface for developers is different and certain functions are limited when in "RT" mode..... I'm aware of the differences between Win RT and Win 8, but I just wouldn't call Win RT as a Windows 8 core. Quote:
Even some of the major RT apps, such as Acrobat reader and Netflix have issues. What kind of problebms you have had with those? I use for example Netflix app daily without any problems. Some earlier versions had video/audio sync problems, but they have been fixed a long time ago. Updating apps is really easy by the way. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,744 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
BTW Win+X is quite handy too. Use it all the time when I want to go to the Control Panel. | | | Karsten
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting StaNDarD: Quote:
You can turn this feature off by typing powercfg -h off in a shell with administrator privileges. powercfg -h on will turn it on again. Actually this will disable hibernate which isn't exactly the same thing. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,744 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting StaNDarD: Quote:
Quoting DJ Doena:
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But to be fair, I already did most of this in Win 7, there you press WIN instead of WIN+Q and start typing.
This still works in Win 8 - press WIN and start typing...  I just tried it and it does work. But for me it's abit counter-intuitive because you have to know that you can type now without seeing any kind of box to type into. With WIN+Q you have the search box at once. | | | Karsten
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,279 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
Quoting StaNDarD:
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You can turn this feature off by typing powercfg -h off in a shell with administrator privileges. powercfg -h on will turn it on again.
Actually this will disable hibernate which isn't exactly the same thing. True, but apparently it's not that hard to disable it properly. Link to how toHaving said that I just tried it and didn't seem to make much difference in the boot time. | | | | IVS Registered: January 2, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 6,461 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
Quoting mediadogg:
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Windows RT is the portion of Windows 8 that is supported on Tablets. The software interface for developers is different and certain functions are limited when in "RT" mode.....
I'm aware of the differences between Win RT and Win 8, but I just wouldn't call Win RT as a Windows 8 core.
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Even some of the major RT apps, such as Acrobat reader and Netflix have issues.
What kind of problebms you have had with those? I use for example Netflix app daily without any problems. Some earlier versions had video/audio sync problems, but they have been fixed a long time ago. Updating apps is really easy by the way. Regarding core: Ok, I guess I was using a pseudo-technical term based on a subjective impression. Forget it. Regarding the RT apps, I recall needing to install the Windows version of Acrobat reader in order for some other windows app to work properly, even though the RT version popped up - it wouldn't print, or something like that. It was a while ago. As far as Netflix, I seem to have trouble navigating the Instant Q in RT mode. Seems like I never get the complete list. And the RT app doesn't give me all the other options that I get when signed on to the web version. | | | Thanks for your support.
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,804 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
Quoting kahless:
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I'll downgrade to Win7 Pro anyway!
May I ask why? Sure!  1. I bought a new system including Win7 Pro. Win 8 "upgrade" would have been quite expensive 2. I do not see any advantage of those tiles on a desktop pc without touch screen with a miles long horizontal, scrollbar 3. I'm missing the start button 4. I do not see a significant better performance as Win 7 5. I refuse to use 3d party software (pay- or freeware) to get back the Win 7 functions You may ask: why are you using Win8 on your current machine? Answer: My current machine was originally delivered with Vista. I thought it can't go worse, and the upgrade to Win8 was very cheap! | | | | Thorsten | | | | Last edited: by kahless |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lithurge: Quote:
That is quite funny, I thought they meant they would have a permanent start button on screen at the very least and suspect many people thought they'd also include a traditional start menu behind it.  I'm at the moment in MS Windows 8 seminar and I can tell you that Win 8.1 does't bring old start menu back. I might also add that the source is very reliable. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,796 |
| | Posted: | | | | There are a number start menus available for Win 8. I'm testing the one from CNET. Try here | | | We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own.
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,461 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Srehtims: Quote:
There are a number start menus available for Win 8.
I'm testing the one from CNET.
Try here It is most definitely cool. Thanks so much for that tip. I would like to modify the color scheme, but I haven't found a way to do that yet. | | | Thanks for your support.
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| Registered: April 3, 2008 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 631 |
| | Posted: | | | | im on windows 8 and profiler works great  | | | | http://www.mulligansmovies.com/ |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Srehtims: Quote:
There are a number start menus available for Win 8.
I'm testing the one from CNET.
Try here Yes I know that there is several third party solutions to get old start menu back. I just wanted to invalisate the rumors that Win 8.1 will bring the feature back. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote:
Whart I really, really hate is this (and sadly, this was already changed in Win 7): The search. Win XP had a simple search and a customizable advanced search where I could search for files that where changed between Christmas and New Year. But no, Microsoft had to copy Apple's Finder without keeping the old system for advanced users. I also learned yesterday that Win 8.1 will bring significant improvements to search feature. Only time will tell how it goes in practise. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,796 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Srehtims: Quote:
There are a number start menus available for Win 8.
I'm testing the one from CNET.
Try here problem: If placed in the tool bar in the profilr using Alt"R" to remove items in the cast/crew list result in opening the the program run. cure for now unpinned it from the toobar. | | | We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own.
Ineptocracy, You got to love it.
"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln | | | | Last edited: by Srehtims |
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