I remember that thread Kathy is talking about. And to be completely clear... it fell to Ken's decision... which his decision was all were examples of a simple episode list and all allowed. Basically a first in wins type of deal.

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But when others don't agree with me, I shrug it off, let the screeners decide and lock my personal preference locally.

This!

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Quoting DJ Doena:

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But when others don't agree with me, I shrug it off, let the screeners decide and lock my personal preference locally.

Oh no! That sound like common sense, and you know that is not acceptable here... 

Well. It's quite well-known here that some like to argue just for the sake of arguing. And to show that they know best.

EITHER MIB, etc is a logo or it's NOT. That's the bottom line.
But then we have a double/triple/multi standard in morality here. Some saying we should write what is on the cover, while stating that SOME things are "logos" and in a great example above, with The OC and Mad Men, people think it's OK to CHANGE things as they see fit.

No wonder there are fights here on and off!

I'm getting so tired of all this. When I bought this software ages ago, I was hoping to meet like-minded. But some here are just so know-it-all about things. Like they are the movie industry impersonated.
Acting like doctors in surgery and lives depending on it. You're just people. And these are just movies. You're not making movies, you're collecting them. If you've collected 15 or 15,000 movies and if you've loved movies for 5 months or 5 decades doesn't matter either. Nor if you once shook hands with or even had dinner with Steven Spielberg.

I just want to know if MIB is a logo or not. To me, it looks "kind" of a logo, but that logo is 100% used as the title n MIIB, for sure.
And the only title for Men in Black 3 is "MIB³". I can't even write that without copy/pasting the text here from some other place.
Another thing I also disagree with is seeing "007" as a logo. For example, looking at the latest release of Octopussy, it says in the credits block [Ian Fleming's] James Bond 007 in "Octopussy". "007" is in the "logo style. I haven't seen the movies, really, so I don't know how it is on screen. But based on that, 007 is not a logo. But a part of the title. And why shouldn't it be? There are already 23 James Bond movies so either James Bon or 007, or both, could very well be part of the title.

So those of you who say one should "shrug it off" don't consider that there are several parts of this community. Two of those might be like me, who look for consistency and to agree on rational, logical decisions. And another part is those who want to know best and show it and shove their knowledge and rules down others' throats, even if it contradicts rules and common sense.
Some are OK with arrogant, elitist people acting like they own this joint. But I'm not. I see it that some people ruin it for others. Even though that's what it's like in society in general as well. Some narrow-minded people who like to rule over others. That's why we can never live in peace and together with each other. That's why that is a Utopia. People fight over little things, most often. Not big things. We ridicule big things. Maybe because so many are so small-minded that they can't grasp "big things".
Ah well. To heck with all political talk. I haven't gotten anywhere with it before, but just started a fight. It's easy to pick a fight here as well. When people refuse to understand for example someone like me. The problem is never what is right and what is wrong. For example what is a logo and what is not. It's how those who decide whether it is a logo or not act, when they make it into a "choice of majority". That's why democracy is so flawed.

The rule simply states, "Use the title from the front cover."  Nowhere does it tell us what, of all the text that is often printed on the cover, is the title.

On my copy of Men in Black, the cover has 'Mr. Jones', 'Mr. Smith', 'MIB' and 'Men in Black' printed on the front.  The argument that advocates including MIB as part of the title seems to be based on the fact that it is on the cover.  Well, if 'MIB' is part of the title, why not 'Mr. Jones' and 'Mr. Smith'?

Speaking for myself, I use a little common sense and simply check the credit block.

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My copy has the same. But looking at it from my desk as it's on the shelf I see MIB Men in Black on the spline. Credit block is only refered to for possesives in the rules. And my common sense tells me it is the title of the case, a creative title, but none the less a title, more or less the same as any other creative title.

Seems to me you're cherry picking different parts of the rules to support your case.

First, I am not cherry picking anything as I only quoted one rule...the one that tells us to take the title from the front of the case.  I did mention my method of determining the actual title in cases where their might be a question, but I made no reference to any other parts of the rules.  It's a little hard to cherry pick different parts when you only mention one.

Second, how is your looking at the spine any different than my looking at the credit block?  I mean other than the fact that the credit block, 99.9% of the time, will contain the actual title.

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But then we have a double/triple/multi standard in morality here.

A "standard in morality" ???

You can't be serious.

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Just for clarification: I did not contribute The OC: The Complete First Season as OC California: Season 1. I just have it locally that way (locked of course) because I prefer it that way.

I just tried to point out the beauty of the lock feature.


If you think it should be MIB: Men in Black but the other owners of that profile disagree with you, then make MIB: Men in Black your title, lock it and be done with it. Luckily, it's not like you're forced to live with the online DB title, whatever it might be.

There's never going to be a rule that covers every single instance, there will always be room for disagreement.

You shouldn't have to disagree about such things. And it totally gets to me that there are such argument over things like this. It ruins the fun of contributing, when people vote no for something that shouldn't cause any fuss. Or a whole debate and name calling, whatever.

However, my point was that it's incorrect to "interpret" The OC: The Complete First Season as OC California: Season 1. That is definitely against both the rules and common sense...! And this is what I mean by a double nature among some people here. It's a whole attitude.
So we shouldn't either have to lock things locally in order to please those who think they stand above the rules and make their own.
For example, all my seasons of Smallville are called what it says on the front covers: Smallville: The Complete First Season, and so on. Not "Smallville: Season 1", etc.
The elitist attitude here is not welcome and it brings a whole group of movie collectors down. Some stop to contribute because of it. And this isn't how DVDProfiler is meant to be used. Like a weapon of power for those who think they were chosen to rule over others.

It's quite clear to me, that based on the rules, MIB, MIIB and MIB³ are not logos, but a part of the title that must be included. Since it is on the cover! And common sense tells us that "Mr. Jones" and "Mr. Smith" are not a part of the title. That is just childish to say, because the font happens to be the same.
MIB means Men in Black, and for many titles, MIIB is all which is used for the front covers and even spines, for Men in Black II. That is the DVD title and that is what the rules ask for. Not the original title! That is a separate field.
To me, some people make a song and dance about this out of arrogance, not because they know more and better. And if they had a different viewpoint, they'd explain it a whole lot better so that everyone could understand and possibly agree. Instead, this is what happens. It's pure nonsense. That's what it is.
Get off your high horses and stop bullying people, to whom it may concern. Grown-ups being defensive over movie collecting "knowledge". Bothersome. I sure hope those aren't parents, trying to teach their kids to "act maturely, grow up", and so on.

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If you are using the credit block for your vote on this title, you would be wrong. 99.9% - this must be the 1%, how covient for your point of view. Just another fictional tidbit of info you offer. When you can point out where in the rules is says to omit MIB, let me know.

TheMadMartian didn't say that he'd use the credit block to vote on this title. He said that the credit block would have the title of the film 99.9% of the time, and how would using the spine be any different from using the credit block (since neither is supported by the rules). If you choose to disregard the front cover and look somewhere else, the credit block is as good as anything.