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The Dark Knight Rises: Aspect Ratio?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorateo357
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I don't see the difference between 1 movie with multiple w/s ratios in it (Tron, Black Knight) or a multi-movie 1 sided that has a 1:78 & 2:35 on it. You get one option. Should be blank in the database. what people do in their local isn't my concern.

It's incorrect whether I agree or not, if there is no ruling by Ken or a change to the rules.

If one person votes no on a contribution because it has something that is in a grey area that majority has ok'd but is not in the rules explanation or one of Ken's forum decisions it should be pulled. No matter how long it's been a practice.

If everyone wants the majority to rule, take away the confines of the rules and go by majority.
I don't care. But this it's ok this week but it may change next week is getting old.
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Yes it's a valid question but rendered invalid because of who asked it.

Uh-oh, pitiful Jimmy S, you will always be a victim of your low level of intelligence. If you continue with your inglorious and childish behavior I'll have to rate the hostile, off-topic posts negative, and summon the forum moderators.
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your pathetic, but I have no more time to waste with you or the retarded posts you always do.

Guess you can add one more member who put you in his blocked list
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I don't see the difference between 1 movie with multiple w/s ratios in it (Tron, Black Knight) or a multi-movie 1 sided that has a 1:78 & 2:35 on it. You get one option. Should be blank in the database. what people do in their local isn't my concern.


A multi-movie one sided disk has rules defined. Thus is would include an aspect ratio, it would be wrong to leave it blank.
"In cases where Widescreen and P&S versions are included, list the Widescreen ratio."
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This does affect plenty of other movies. Off the top of my head: The Simpsons Movie, Where's Marlowe, some releases of Dr. Strangelove, the 2003 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles series, The Blair Witch Project and Brother Bear.
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I don't see the difference between 1 movie with multiple w/s ratios in it (Tron, Black Knight) or a multi-movie 1 sided that has a 1:78 & 2:35 on it. You get one option. Should be blank in the database. what people do in their local isn't my concern.


A multi-movie one sided disk has rules defined. Thus is would include an aspect ratio, it would be wrong to leave it blank.
"In cases where Widescreen and P&S versions are included, list the Widescreen ratio."



I was talking about Multi- widescreen ratios. Multi-movie (2 or more different movies on 1-side of a disc)
not mutli-version of the same film (2 aspects WS & FF on 1 side of a disc).
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A multi-movie one sided disk has rules defined. Thus is would include an aspect ratio, it would be wrong to leave it blank.
"In cases where Widescreen and P&S versions are included, list the Widescreen ratio."

And if there are two different movies on same side, other 1:78 and the other 2:35? Neather of them is P&S. I have these for example in short film collections.
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your pathetic, but I have no more time to waste with you or the retarded posts you always do.

Another pitiful off-topic post, Jimmy S, repeated harassment of another member is a bannable offense according to Invelos and the forum rules.
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I was talking about Multi- widescreen ratios. Multi-movie (2 or more different movies on 1-side of a disc)
not mutli-version of the same film (2 aspects WS & FF on 1 side of a disc).


But my point is:
Within the rules it is either stated or it is implied that the aspect ratio is going to be filled in. Everything discusses how to achieve this. True not every case is covered, but that is common with all rules.

Nowhere is it stated or implied that the aspect ratio is not filled in. The closest you can get to this is with the rules on boxsets, and even here it still implies the aspect ratio is to be filled in, but only in the child profiles not the parent.

Nowhere does anything point to "leave the aspect ratio field blank"
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Rules doesn't say that we must enter aspect ratio, if it's impossible due the program limitation to enter correct value.
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Rules doesn't say that we must enter aspect ratio, if it's impossible due the program limitation to enter correct value.


But, that isn't the case here. The problem is that both values are correct.

The only incorrect data is saying the movie has no aspect ratio at all! 
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Rules doesn't say that we must enter aspect ratio, if it's impossible due the program limitation to enter correct value.


But, that isn't the case here. The problem is that both values are correct.

The only incorrect data is having saying the movie has no aspect ratio at all! 


This is the rule.
Use the Ratio drop down list to enter the aspect ratio of the main feature. In cases where Widescreen and P&S versions are included, list the Widescreen ratio.

So when you have 2 different widescreen ratios, which ratio do you list and why? What majority wants, what comes on-screen first, what has the longest running time. No matter what the decision is, it is wrong because the database has not updated this area for the new standard in movies (multiple ratios in the same film, multiple films with different ratios on the same side of a disc).
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...No matter what the decision is, it is wrong...


Actually, no matter what the decision is, it is right.

This is one of those situations in which, as I posted earlier, there is no "correct" answer.

There are no rules or clarifications that deal with this and, until the database is updated to include multiple aspect ratios, Invelos needs to step up and let us know how this should be dealt with.
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...No matter what the decision is, it is wrong...


Actually, no matter what the decision is, it is right.

This is one of those situations in which, as I posted earlier, there is no "correct" answer.

There are no rules or clarifications that deal with this and, until the database is updated to include multiple aspect ratios, Invelos needs to step up and let us know how this should be dealt with.


If there is no correct answer. How can it be right if you answer it. The only correct answer is not to answer.
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so I predict a million pages of retarded posting.


It's like you are psychic. 
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so I predict a million pages of retarded posting.


It's like you are psychic. 


And yet you still get annoyed when you get charged £1.50 a minute to phone me?
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