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| Registered: May 9, 2007 |  Posts: 50 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote:
There's a vote on this issue in the contribution rules forum right now. Where? I tried to look found nothing. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | You have to be a member of the Rules Committee Forum. If you don't have access for it yet... you just need to request access. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 23, 2011 | | Posts: 462 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting robetclo2516: Quote:
I think I got a solution that will probably be okay with you guys, Why not treat a BD3D to start with as a BD release and then on the child profile take the BD 3D instead of the BD this way we could accuratly list all the differences for the 3D version? Why Haven't I thought of it before? I agree. To me the BD is the main disc. The 3D is more like an "add-on". I would just have a child profile for the 3D with the differences from the BD. | | | | Last edited: by No-way |
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| Registered: October 30, 2011 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,870 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting force: Quote:
Quoting robetclo2516:
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I think I got a solution that will probably be okay with you guys, Why not treat a BD3D to start with as a BD release and then on the child profile take the BD 3D instead of the BD this way we could accuratly list all the differences for the 3D version? Why Haven't I thought of it before?
I agree. To me the BD is the main disc. The 3D is more like an "add-on". I would just have a child profile
for the 3D with the differences from the BD. The only reason to purchase a 3D release is for the 3D. Because 3D is not mainstrean every 3D release coincides with a regular BD release. Since child profiles are optional you cannot force their creation or use, the parent has to contain the 3D data in some form. The polls in the "Contribution Rulles Comittee" forum do not include any option to ignore the 3D in the parent profile, and nor should they since children have to be optional. But keep in mind the rules being discussed are for the online database. How people profile locally is up to them. | | | | Last edited: by Scooter1836 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Gotta agree with Scooter on this one. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 23, 2011 | | Posts: 462 |
| | Posted: | | | | You are talking about the releases as if they were 3D only releases, but they are not. They are Combo releases.Both 2D and 3D. Both equal. What right have you to decide what option should or shouldn't be in a poll ? Just because it happen that you don't like it ? |
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have to agree that people buying 3D release are, for the most part, buying them for the 3D material. If they didn't consider the 3D a big deal, they could save $10 or so by getting the 2D version.
Force, I understand that you disagree, but have you ever purchased a 3D title? If so, why? |
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| Registered: March 23, 2011 | | Posts: 462 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote:
I have to agree that people buying 3D release are, for the most part, buying them for the 3D material. If they didn't consider the 3D a big deal, they could save $10 or so by getting the 2D version.
Force, I understand that you disagree, but have you ever purchased a 3D title? If so, why? Yes, I have a few 3d (Combo) titles. 3 of them came with my TV and BR-player. The rest I purchased because they were on sale (equal or a little bit more than the 2D only release). Nice to have the 3D option (when kids come over etc.).And I will buy more, if the price is right. But for me the main thing is 2D. I see the 3D just as an option/add-on you can turn on if you want like some other features (like commentary etc.) |
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting force: Quote:
Yes, I have a few 3d (Combo) titles. 3 of them came with my TV and BR-player. The rest I purchased because they were on sale (equal or a little bit more than the 2D only release). Nice to have the 3D option (when kids come over etc.).And I will buy more, if the price is right. But for me the main thing is 2D. I see the 3D just as an option/add-on you can turn on if you want like some other features (like commentary etc.) And if there's a commentary, we tend to list that in the main profile, not create children for the purpose of tracking it. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting force: Quote:
But for me the main thing is 2D. I see the 3D just as an option/add-on you can turn on if you want like some other features (like commentary etc.) But that isn't how they are sold. They are sold as 3D releases with a 2D and DVD version included. Because of that, it makes no sense to create the main profile as if it were a 2D only release, relegating the 3D version to a child profile. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 23, 2011 | | Posts: 462 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote:
And if there's a commentary, we tend to list that in the main profile, not create children for the purpose of tracking it. You can also list the 3D add-on in the main profile. In 3.8 we have a dimensions checkbox for that. You don't have to create a child profile. As Scooter loves to say; you can just make the 3D changes you want to the fields in the 2D parent and lock them. Just don't contribute them.  |
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| Registered: May 16, 2010 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 516 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree fully. When I buy a 3D release and I get the Blu-ray 2D and even a DVD with it, the main disc or parent disc is the 3D version and I contribute the data of this in the main profile. Then you can do for the 2D Blu-ray or even if there the DVD a child profile. But in a 3D package the 3D disc is always the main film and disc as other told, 2D and DVD are just nice additions they put in the 3D package.
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| Registered: May 9, 2007 | | Posts: 50 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting SwissFilm: Quote:
I agree fully. When I buy a 3D release and I get the Blu-ray 2D and even a DVD with it, the main disc or parent disc is the 3D version and I contribute the data of this in the main profile. Then you can do for the 2D Blu-ray or even if there the DVD a child profile. But in a 3D package the 3D disc is always the main film and disc as other told, 2D and DVD are just nice additions they put in the 3D package.
Fritz I agree with you however, a vote is in course to how to hadle this kind of situation and the first one is winning  meaning that what we do right now stay. But I have submint an idea in the 3.8.1 wish list discusion to include a specification for 3D release here http://invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=606017 and it will go like this : We would need 3 Options: 1- Separate Discs (Edition that holds two disc for each dimensions 3D and 2D) 2- Hybride discs unlocked ( A single disc that carries both edition on wich you can chose wich dimension you want to watch. 3- Hybride Locked (A single disc that holds both dimension but you cannot chose wich dimensions you want to watch) |
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| Registered: October 30, 2011 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,870 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting robetclo2516: Quote:
Quoting SwissFilm:
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I agree fully. When I buy a 3D release and I get the Blu-ray 2D and even a DVD with it, the main disc or parent disc is the 3D version and I contribute the data of this in the main profile. Then you can do for the 2D Blu-ray or even if there the DVD a child profile. But in a 3D package the 3D disc is always the main film and disc as other told, 2D and DVD are just nice additions they put in the 3D package.
Fritz
I agree with you however, a vote is in course to how to hadle this kind of situation and the first one is winning meaning that what we do right now stay. But I have submint an idea in the 3.8.1 wish list discusion to include a specification for 3D release here http://invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=606017 and it will go like this :
We would need 3 Options:
1- Separate Discs (Edition that holds two disc for each dimensions 3D and 2D)
2- Hybride discs unlocked ( A single disc that carries both edition on wich you can chose wich dimension you want to watch.
3- Hybride Locked (A single disc that holds both dimension but you cannot chose wich dimensions you want to watch) Option 3 would never exist. THe definition of a hybrid is that the single disc does both 2D and 3D, why would one be locked out, it would then just be covered in option 1 |
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